No point in eternal agony

[Banned]

Endless torture is a pagan teaching,

Lie

so prevalent that when Jesus talked about justice, he had to use their own ideas to convey a lesson.

Lie

In one parable, he used an illustration from their own books, and this is held up as proof by the fallen churches that hell is an eternal burning.

Lie.

But they forget that in the same story, the beggar sits on Abraham's lap in heaven, while the greedy rich man talks to God from hell.

Lie.

First you have saved people sitting on Abraham's lap - which would crush him, and secondly hell has a two way radio to heaven.

Lie.

People believe what they want to believe, and then amass the 'evidence' for it.

True, but that makes them simply wrong. And it is exactly what you do.

You may find it easier to say that you feel that whatever letter and word I type is a lie.
You don't want to leave the impression that you have a compulsive disorder do you?

[purplepurpose]

Re the OP:  I'm not real fond of momentary agony either so definitely no unrelenting agony for me, thank you.

I have enough time, just to earn some money. At this point, I just avoide even thinking about Magical Afterlife.

[Abaddon_ire]

OK, then...

Endless torture is a pagan teaching,

Lie. "Pagan" is a particular subset of superstition and has no concept of hell. You have simply lumped in your misconceptions en mass.

so prevalent that when Jesus talked about justice, he had to use their own ideas to convey a lesson.

Lie. What the NT describes as "justice" as performed by jebus is not just by any measure.

In one parable, he used an illustration from their own books, and this is held up as proof by the fallen churches that hell is an eternal burning.

Lie. Hell does not appear in the bible at all, ever. It is a later frenetic addition by addled god botherers.

But they forget that in the same story, the beggar sits on Abraham's lap in heaven, while the greedy rich man talks to God from hell.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible. Abe didn't exist, nor did any god.

First you have saved people sitting on Abraham's lap - which would crush him, and secondly hell has a two way radio to heaven.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible, Abe didn't exist, god didn't exist, there are no "saved people".

People believe what they want to believe, and then amass the 'evidence' for it.

True, but that makes them simply wrong. And it is exactly what you do.
That is what the religious do. Pick a conclusion and make the evidence fit no matter what.

That is not how the real world works.

[Banned]

OK, then...

Endless torture is a pagan teaching,

Lie. "Pagan" is a particular subset of superstition and has no concept of hell. You have simply lumped in your misconceptions en mass.

so prevalent that when Jesus talked about justice, he had to use their own ideas to convey a lesson.

Lie. What the NT describes as "justice" as performed by jebus is not just by any measure.

In one parable, he used an illustration from their own books, and this is held up as proof by the fallen churches that hell is an eternal burning.

Lie. Hell does not appear in the bible at all, ever. It is a later frenetic addition by addled god botherers.

But they forget that in the same story, the beggar sits on Abraham's lap in heaven, while the greedy rich man talks to God from hell.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible. Abe didn't exist, nor did any god.

First you have saved people sitting on Abraham's lap - which would crush him, and secondly hell has a two way radio to heaven.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible, Abe didn't exist, god didn't exist, there are no "saved people".

People believe what they want to believe, and then amass the 'evidence' for it.

True, but that makes them simply wrong. And it is exactly what you do.
That is what the religious do. Pick a conclusion and make the evidence fit no matter what.

That is not how the real world works.

You seem to be convinced of what you are saying, but when you tell people what they are saying, and it's something else, you are creating your own reality, either by a lack of reading and comprehension skills or an imagination without true reference.

[Abaddon_ire]

OK, then...

Lie. "Pagan" is a particular subset of superstition and has no concept of hell. You have simply lumped in your misconceptions en mass.

Lie. What the NT describes as "justice" as performed by jebus is not just by any measure.

Lie. Hell does not appear in the bible at all, ever. It is a later frenetic addition by addled god botherers.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible. Abe didn't exist, nor did any god.

Lie. There is no hell in the bible, Abe didn't exist, god didn't exist, there are no "saved people".

True, but that makes them simply wrong. And it is exactly what you do.
That is what the religious do. Pick a conclusion and make the evidence fit no matter what.

That is not how the real world works.

You seem to be convinced of what you are saying, but when you tell people what they are saying, and it's something else, you are creating your own reality, either by a lack of reading and comprehension skills or an imagination without true reference.

You are the one living in a fantasy world of sky fairies.

[The Grand Nudger]

Even the jews didn't believe in this "hell" shit.  When you're dead, god is finally done with you.  It wasn't until "jesus", meek and mild, that "sinners" would be tormented in perpetuity, and it wasn't until dante that either hell or the devil took shape, largely as a zeitgeist of diminutive forms of pagan gods that the institution of christianity sought to push out of the religious marketplace.

[purplepurpose]

Even the jews didn't believe in this "hell" shit.  When you're dead, god is finally done with you.  It wasn't until "jesus", meek and mild, that "sinners" would be tormented in perpetuity, and it wasn't until dante that either hell or the devil took shape, largely as a zeitgeist of diminutive forms of pagan gods that the institution of christianity sought to push out of the religious marketplace.

This guy hopes to have hands and legs in heaven. What would you told him? That it's a scam and he need to abandon his hopes?

[Banned]

Even the jews didn't believe in this "hell" shit.  When you're dead, god is finally done with you.  It wasn't until "jesus", meek and mild, that "sinners" would be tormented in perpetuity, and it wasn't until dante that either hell or the devil took shape, largely as a zeitgeist of diminutive forms of pagan gods that the institution of christianity sought to push out of the religious marketplace.

No.

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You are the one living in a fantasy world of sky fairies.

What fantasies are they?

[The Grand Nudger]

This guy hopes to have hands and legs in heaven. What would you told him? That it's a scam and he need to abandon his hopes?

Sure would, guys a snake oil salesman who uses his condition as a gimmick to monetize a horde of fucked up bible shit for credulous loons.  That's pretty much the definition of cynical "christianity".

[Abaddon_ire]

Even the jews didn't believe in this "hell" shit.  When you're dead, god is finally done with you.  It wasn't until "jesus", meek and mild, that "sinners" would be tormented in perpetuity, and it wasn't until dante that either hell or the devil took shape, largely as a zeitgeist of diminutive forms of pagan gods that the institution of christianity sought to push out of the religious marketplace.

No.

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You are the one living in a fantasy world of sky fairies.

What fantasies are they?

The fantasies you simply make up out of whole cloth.

I cannot take responsibility for the crap you make up, nor can I predict the crap you make up.Those are your fantasies, not mine.