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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 6:46 am
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(February 2, 2018 at 6:36 am)Banned Wrote: It's only a circular argument if it is false. That's not actually how that works, lol. A circular argument is still a circular argument..even if it somehow gets something right by pure chance.
Quote:That's what a lot of people are hoping.
Wish in one hand, shit in the other.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 7:02 am
Is this guy for real?
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 7:03 am
It wouldn't be the silliest thing we've ever heard from a true believer, would it?
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 7:10 am
lol, definitely not. Huggy’s hybrid man-snake will always hold a special place in my heart in that category. 😏
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 11:37 am
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(February 2, 2018 at 6:36 am)Banned Wrote: (February 1, 2018 at 7:49 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(February 1, 2018 at 9:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(February 1, 2018 at 10:50 am)drfuzzy Wrote: That's pathetic. To use one of the most flawed, illogical, ridiculous pieces of literature ever written as the base of your entire existence? You would be better off as an obsessed Trekkie, getting therapy to convince yourself that you can actually go out in public without first putting on a Trek uniform and Vulcan ear-pieces.
Quote:Your response is typical of someone who has either turned their back on God, or has a scant hearsay knowledge of the Bible, and has never really studied it in earnest.
I'm thinking the latter applies.
You're talking to someone who was raised Pentecostal and graduated from a Protestant school. Someone who was made to memorize a Bible passage every day and recite it before the "blessing" at dinner. Someone who had to write papers on "Biblical History" and "Bible Interpretation" for class. Someone who claimed to be xtian until past the age of 40.
My - problem, as you might choose to oh-so-ignorantly and judgmentally frame it - is that I took classes in cosmology and other sciences, comparative religion, and philosophy, and then I actually READ the book (that I still have mostly memorized) WITHOUT the mindset that "ooh, god wrote this for humanity and it's special!".
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 11:37 am
Quote:It's only a circular argument if it is false.
That's circular reasoning works 
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 12:16 pm
(February 1, 2018 at 7:17 am)Banned Wrote: (January 29, 2018 at 11:45 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: No, actually. It’s a non-starter and a logical fallacy. Logically speaking, it is fallacious to reference the Bible as evidence or reason for the truth of the Bible. Thanks for playing though. Maybe some day I’ll get an intellectually honest answer to my question, but I’m not holding my breath.
The Bible is the beginning of my reasoning. There's nothing dishonest about that.
If you want to know how I think - start there.
If you just start with the bible for no justifiable reason, then no I don't want to know what you think because you are obviously a moron.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Starting with the bible would actually be a good way to go about it, but then you have to test that original assumption to destruction to see what survives scrutiny. If all you're doing is testing the bible against itself, in order to prove the validity of the bible, well obviously you're going to go round in circles. You're no better off than a Star Wars fan using quotes from the fanfiction to explain what the Kessel Run means.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 4:38 pm
(February 2, 2018 at 11:37 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
You're talking to someone who was raised Pentecostal and graduated from a Protestant school. Someone who was made to memorize a Bible passage every day and recite it before the "blessing" at dinner. Someone who had to write papers on "Biblical History" and "Bible Interpretation" for class. Someone who claimed to be xtian until past the age of 40.
My - problem, as you might choose to oh-so-ignorantly and judgmentally frame it - is that I took classes in cosmology and other sciences, comparative religion, and philosophy, and then I actually READ the book (that I still have mostly memorized) WITHOUT the mindset that "ooh, god wrote this for humanity and it's special!".
Being a Pentecostal would have prepared you to become an atheist, because the churches are run by Satan, and most people who attend don't know it.
The essentials of being able to connect with God to have a living experience, are not there, because their doctrines have shut God out, and their use of the Bible is dishonest and ritualistic.
But now evolution removes God altogether, and the third phase of deception is yet to come, where supernatural wonders, convince people to turn to God again, except it won't be God but an impostor of one kind or another.
The Pentecostals would have taught you something along that line about the Antichrist, but what they taught had enough errors to turn the mind off.
Anyone who has the Bible, is able to find the truth, however, the majority do not make the effort to test what is taught in the churches.
Another class of people, know what the Bible teaches, but have idols in their heart which end up blinding them to the truth.
The god of the churches in general is manipulating and self interested, to say the least.
In the mix of truth and error, the churches hold on to people that are sincere as well as those who are unconverted.
Your escape may be fortunate.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
February 2, 2018 at 4:49 pm
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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