(February 15, 2018 at 5:42 pm)Joods Wrote: I asked my 13 year old son and my 15 year old daughter, who BOTH like playing CoD Black Ops, if they would ever feel the need to go out and shoot up a bunch of people simply because they play a "violent" video game and they both looked at me like I was nuts. Both emphatically said NO.

This is more of an opinion than anything, but I often feel that this type of surveys go about things the wrong way.   That it is not as much, that a certain type of game or music or what not directly causes this type of thing.  But I can certainly see where in the right type of person who are already having issues, that these type of things could fan the flames for the wrong types of thoughts and/or feelings.  As I have said before, I think that to point to any one thing, that it is more of a social issue than anything else.  But there are a lot of things to consider, and I don't that there is one specific thing, or that any two cases are a like.

Anyways, that's my two cents.

Is this an opinion, too?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cr...eader-says

Quote:White Supremacists Claim Nikolas Cruz Trained With Them; Students Say He Wore Trump Hat in School

Hate group says the accused Florida school shooter did paramilitary exercises and got a rifle from members. Ex-students say he wore a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat in school.

(February 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Guns are clearly more important to these people than are children. 

Boru

Sadly yes. 20 kids and 6 teachers in a school, and they gun worshipers care less about those kids than having a better vetting system to prevent these types of events. Now yet another Columbine, another Newtown, not to mention the daily suicides, accidental, domestic murders on top of the outrageous amount of mass shootings too.

America has allowed 1 industry and it's blood lobby to be held hostage by greedy firearm profiteers.

With that many guns possessed by so many people don't you think the people want to have guns?  Is the NRA forcing anyone to buy guns or is it just acting as an agent to ensure that the population can buy guns?

(February 15, 2018 at 3:42 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Aegon Wrote: I love how you realize the US has a violent culture but somehow you don't connect that to the fact that guns are so ingrained in our culture.

Also If video game culture is causing violence then Korea and Japan should be murder capitals of the world.

...and I love how you ignore the question as to why some kid would even fanaticize about murdering other people in the first place and then act on it, and then believe gun control is going to be the cure all.

Made in Korea and Japan and sold to a bunch of undisciplined kids here in the U.S. The gaming industry there is making a hefty profit through their contribution to our culture of violence.

Because you can't look on the street an say " look a sociopath" or control the enviroment of the children ( and btw the like's of Bundy were psychopaths, people with almost no emotions who were persecuted in childhood and also , most of them don't use guns) you dumb fuck. Or maybe you are a genius and you have discovered how to control every enviromental factors in an individuals life.
The best way to predict this kind of things is to restrict the fucking gun laws. You know how many mass shootings are in Romania ? 0 , you know how many people were killed in 2012 with a gun ? 6. Why because we have very restrictive gun laws, maybe Romania is not as developed as the USA but at least our kids aren't guned down in schools. And please don't say culture , almoste everyone on this fucking planet watches USA movies , tv shows or plays video fucking games.

Edit:Btw guess what it happens when you enforce discipline into a psychopatic kid.

(February 14, 2018 at 8:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Are 30 thousand deaths per year not worth more than president "grab them by the pussy"?

Are you including suicides?

(February 15, 2018 at 7:48 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Sadly yes. 20 kids and 6 teachers in a school, and they gun worshipers care less about those kids than having a better vetting system to prevent these types of events. Now yet another Columbine, another Newtown, not to mention the daily suicides, accidental, domestic murders on top of the outrageous amount of mass shootings too.

America has allowed 1 industry and it's blood lobby to be held hostage by greedy firearm profiteers.

With that many guns possessed by so many people don't you think the people want to have guns?  Is the NRA forcing anyone to buy guns or is it just acting as an agent to ensure that the population can buy guns?

Ever heard of F.U.D.? Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt? It's a psychological ploy to build gun sales by making a certain demographic terrified. Of course the proponents know that a percentage of those people will go ape shit, but that just drives  up sale further.

(February 15, 2018 at 7:59 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(February 15, 2018 at 3:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: ...and I love how you ignore the question as to why some kid would even fanaticize about murdering other people in the first place and then act on it, and then believe gun control is going to be the cure all.

Made in Korea and Japan and sold to a bunch of undisciplined kids here in the U.S. The gaming industry there is making a hefty profit through their contribution to our culture of violence.

Because you can't look on the street an say " look a sociopath" or control the enviroment of the children ( and btw the like's of Bundy were psychopaths, people with almost no emotions who were persecuted in childhood and also , most of them don't use guns) you dumb fuck. Or maybe you are a genius and you have discovered how to control every enviromental factors in an individuals life.
The best way to predict this kind of things is to restrict the fucking gun laws. You know how many mass shootings are in Romania ? 0 , you know how many people were killed in 2012 with a gun ? 6. Why because we have very restrictive gun laws, maybe Romania is not as developed as the USA but at least our kids aren't guned down in schools. And please don't say culture , almoste everyone on this fucking planet watches USA movies , tv shows or plays video fucking games.

Edit:Btw guess what it happens when you enforce discipline into a psychopatic kid.

Our culture has changed since I was as old as these kids who go out and shoot people. Back in my day if a punk ass mother fucker ran his fucking mouth we didn't shoot the dumb shit like kids do today. Back then we'd just meet after school and the mouthy mother fucker would get his fucking lights punched out. Anybody in Romania ever kick your dumb fucking punk ass?

The problem in this country is that we have a problem with lack of empathy. People care more about their death machines than they do the lives of innocent children. They would rather find a group to hate, than a group to help.

I wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice their own children for their guns. Then again, maybe I'd rather remain ignorant of that: I think it'd frighten me as to how many would.

(February 16, 2018 at 12:49 am)Cecelia Wrote: The problem in this country is that we have a problem with lack of empathy.  People care more about their death machines than they do the lives of innocent children.  They would rather find a group to hate, than a group to help.  

I wonder how many people would be willing to sacrifice their own children for their guns.  Then again, maybe I'd rather remain ignorant of that:  I think it'd frighten me as to how many would.

Just peek at Min's 2nd Amendment thread and you'll get a good idea of the number of idiots that leave their guns laying around, LOADED, so that their 3 year old can pick it up, fire it and have the news report it as an "accidental" death. 

Nope. Nothing about being too fucking lazy to keep your guns and ammo separate, and locked away in a gun safe, is accidental. Perhaps if there punishments handed out to those ignorant fucks, it would discourage other ignorant fucks to start doing the right thing. And no - grieving the loss of a child is not punishment enough. The loss never would have occurred had the right thing been done in the first place.

Texas kids take guns to school all the time.

"5 Dallas-area students arrested in gun or threat incidents a day after Florida school killings"
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/20...und-school

"Three North Texas high school students — one each at Marcus High in Flower Mound, Plano West and South Garland — were arrested Thursday after reportedly taking guns to their campuses a day after the deadly shooting in Florida. 

The Marcus High and South Garland students each face a charge of carrying a firearm in a prohibited place. The Plano West student also may face a felony charge.  

The weapons were not fired, and there were no injuries at the schools. "