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What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 1:10 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(February 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What I'm saying is that there a things that exist beyond what your 5 senses are able to detect.

Yeah no shit. No matter how hard I try I can't sense neutrinos for example. But there are many things that can only be sensed using instruments. And because they can be objectively measured in a reproducible way we can confirm their existence. This does not mean to say that we should assume the existence of something that cannot be sensed at all.

Or radio waves, or atoms, or dark matter, or any number of other things that are perfectly well detectable, but not with our 5 senses (I'll leave that number for another time---we have more than 5 senses).
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 1:10 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(February 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What I'm saying is that there a things that exist beyond what your 5 senses are able to detect.

Yeah no shit. No matter how hard I try I can't sense neutrinos for example. But there are many things that can only be sensed using instruments. And because they can be objectively measured in a reproducible way we can confirm their existence. This does not mean to say that we should assume the existence of something that cannot be sensed at all.

So then your answer on whether higher dimension exist is a 'no ' then?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
Another impediment for me will occur during the Graham funeral. A perfect opportunity for any number of Christians/Evangelicals/Fundamentalists/Literalists to witness the Word DIRECTLY to president Trump, and yet not one of them will.

Its just like they don't believe in it either.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(February 27, 2018 at 11:31 am)Divinity Wrote: An 'all loving god' is going to send people to hell for simply loving and having sexual relations with someone of the same sex.  And that this god cares so much about what people do in their own bedrooms.  Doesn't fucking compute.  Could only be manmade.

It does compute.

Sexual relations are only allowed through the institute of marriage, the purpose of sex is to reproduce. men and women having sex outside of marriage is wrong, just the same as same sex couples have sex is wrong, those things are perversions of what God set up in the beginning.

Sin is nothing more than perversion... For example a lie is a perversion of the truth.


Sex was not the intended way for humans to be produced, we were supposed to be formed from the earth just like Adam was.

Adam had this power but lost it through the fall.

Therefore God allowed man to reproduce by sex through marriage.

Umm so Adam didn't have a peepee when your God created him? Eve too didn't have a vajayjay I am guessing?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
So god thinks love , happiness , And the bonding of both are a perversion . Thank you for giving me one more reason to reject the premise of your ideology.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(February 27, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It does compute.

Sexual relations are only allowed through the institute of marriage, the purpose of sex is to reproduce. men and women having sex outside of marriage is wrong, just the same as same sex couples have sex is wrong, those things are perversions of what God set up in the beginning.

Sin is nothing more than perversion... For example a lie is a perversion of the truth.


Sex was not the intended way for humans to be produced, we were supposed to be formed from the earth just like Adam was.

Adam had this power but lost it through the fall.

Therefore God allowed man to reproduce by sex through marriage.

Umm so Adam didn't have a peepee when your God created him? Eve too didn't have a vajayjay I am guessing?

No, they did since the bible states they were naked, however they didn't know they were naked, they had childlike innocence in that regard.

(February 27, 2018 at 1:37 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: So god thinks love , happiness , And the bonding of both are a perversion . Thank you for giving me one more reason to reject the premise of your ideology.

Would you be cool we me loving and bonding with your wife?
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*

What's my ilk? Black people?

Your ilk are homophobic bigots that are less than pieces of shit.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
No god who regrets the loving relationship between two capable consenting adults . Can be a loving god.

Quote:What's my ilk? Black people?
Homophobic trash
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
(February 27, 2018 at 1:51 pm)Divinity Wrote:
(February 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*

What's my ilk? Black people?

Your ilk are homophobic bigots that are less than pieces of shit.

I didn't realize that explaining the what the bible says about homosexuality was being homophobic; I'm not afraid of the same gender.
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RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
One of the most ignorant didplays I've seen is a guy with a tattoo of the Leviticus "Man shall not lie with a man as he does with woman" on his arm.

Apparently that's the only Leviticus law he thought applied because there's also a condemnation of tattoos, too.

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