I'm confused. Is Harris being channeled?

(March 12, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(March 12, 2018 at 7:05 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: So wryd a Hitler apologist and a holocaust denialist. 

I'm not in the least surprised  

But he can  still go fuck himself 

Contrary to popular belief the world doesn't revolve around Hitler, the Jews, or the "holocaust".

No, it doesn't.

But that doesn't mean we should forget about the actions carried out against a whole group of people simply because they're a minority.  Let's not forget, it wasn't just Jews who were slaughtered by this madman's regime. "Gypsies" and others who were considered "subhuman", including the mentally ill were slaughtered in their thousands.

And you're right, Hitler likely didn't kill anyone himself in the war.  But he and his underlings either ordered it or were fully aware of it and did nothing to end it.  Delegation is a wonderful thing, isn't it?  It was a common excuse among those who carried out the atrocities that they were "just following orders".  As the "man" at the top of the regime, he is ultimately responsible.

And yes, he MAY have been fighting domestic "terrorists" at first.  Though that doesn't excuse the actions of his underlings or explain the targeted killings of specific groups in areas his armies conquered.  The einsatzgruppen didn't follow up the advancing armies to fight partisans.  They were specifically tasked to locate and wipe out parts of the population.

Does this justify ignoring the atrocities of other groups at the time or since?  Of course not.

But let's not ignore a terrible event that left millions dead.

It makes us appear just like the Turks denying the Armenian genocide.

Oh, and I know you didn't, but please never use the term "ethnic cleansing" around me.

(March 12, 2018 at 7:12 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:Contrary to popular belief the world doesn't revolve around Hitler, the Jews, or the "holocaust"

Contrary your fucked up Nazi ball licking . Apologizing  for evil should get you the following 

American committed far more war crimes and for centuries longer than the Nazis.  People are just pissed because Hitler killed white people instead of blacks and browns.  King Leopold II of Belgium killed 10-12 million black Africans in the Congo and stole the country blind while savagely mutilating people.  No one said a word.  And we all know what a bunch of low-lifes the Founders were in regard to American Indians and blacks.  The genocidal Jackson gets honored on money for his destruction against the Indians.  And FDR was so racist he wouldn't even let black American troops fight white Nazis, or even build weapons to use against them, who were trying to conquer the world.  

So stop being so sanctimonious and start bitching about our own war crimes instead of Hitler's, who was fighting domestic enemies doing their best to destroy Germany.

FUCK YOU NAZI APOLOGIST !!!!

Wyrd of Gawd is an idiot!

(March 12, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: American committed far more war crimes and for centuries longer than the Nazis.

That would have been a neat trick..since the concept of warcrimes arises in 1899 and 1907, but would not be fully developed until the establishment of the nuremburg principles and geneva conventions as a direct response to WW2.  

Quote: People are just pissed because Hitler killed white people instead of blacks and browns.

Who told you teh jews were white, lol?  Have you asked your local racist for clarity on that issue?

Quote: King Leopold II of Belgium killed 10-12 million black Africans in the Congo and stole the country blind while savagely mutilating people.  No one said a word.

..........in the 1800's......., but, truthfully..people did say words, even then, and the whole bit was then and has gone down as a deplorable episode in history.  Well...to those of us who think that sort of shit isn't "fighting domestic enemies" - which was..predictably, Leopolds position on native uprisings and unrest.  He was trying to help the savages..and to do so forced labor was employed..particularly to produce rubber.  This was also a going concern at auschwitz, where jews were employed in greenhouses tending to experiments in rubber production.   Now, leopolds regime favored cutting off the hands of recalcitrant laborers.....but the Nazis had a different SOP for that in poland.   

Quote:And we all know what a bunch of low-lifes the Founders were in regard to American Indians and blacks. The genocidal Jackson gets honored on money for his destruction against the Indians.  And FDR was so racist he wouldn't even let black American troops fight white Nazis, or even build weapons to use against them, who were trying to conquer the world.  

So stop being so sanctimonious and start bitching about our own war crimes instead of Hitler's, who was fighting domestic enemies doing their best to destroy Germany.

"Domestic enemies" in eleven foreign countries, and the best way to "fight" them was shuffling them into concentration camps as forced labor before..eventually, attempting to exterminate them. I suppose if you step back and take a look at the totality of history in this...the 1800s and 1900s were what formed our changing views of what was and wasn;t acceptible in a war (or in "fighting domestic enemies" or the treatment of ones own undesirable citizens or how our tacit or implicit support contributed to all of it). We saw the trail of tears, the civil war, the congo, the armenian genocide, ww1, ww2 and the holocaust...all..roughly, within 100 years (and this excludes a long list of other atrocities known and unknown to me). Is it surprising that were emerged from the other side of that century different than when we went in?

(March 12, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(March 12, 2018 at 7:12 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Contrary your fucked up Nazi ball licking . Apologizing  for evil should get you the following 

American committed far more war crimes and for centuries longer than the Nazis.  People are just pissed because Hitler killed white people instead of blacks and browns.  King Leopold II of Belgium killed 10-12 million black Africans in the Congo and stole the country blind while savagely mutilating people.  No one said a word.  And we all know what a bunch of low-lifes the Founders were in regard to American Indians and blacks.  The genocidal Jackson gets honored on money for his destruction against the Indians.  And FDR was so racist he wouldn't even let black American troops fight white Nazis, or even build weapons to use against them, who were trying to conquer the world.  

So stop being so sanctimonious and start bitching about our own war crimes instead of Hitler's, who was fighting domestic enemies doing their best to destroy Germany.

You are still not getting it.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Defending Hitler makes you look bat shit insane.

I have mixed feelings on this. To be fair he did mention other ethnic groups. Still bad either way. I believe Putin is a very evil man and his intentions are purely evil and selfish. He wants to bring Russia back to it's USSR roots, just stronger. I think at the end of the day there are honestly more important things to be worried about than what someone said. Yes, it was bad, but we have bigger issues. I know this may not be a popular opinion either. And yes, I do understand how this sort of thing hasn't gone over well in recent history. Two wrongs don't make a right though and this sort of thing should not be tolerate. But we also should consider the context.

(March 12, 2018 at 10:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(March 12, 2018 at 10:05 am)Lutrinae Wrote: Hitler blamed the Jews, too, just saying.

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Hitler had a legitimate point.  The Zionists were domestic enemies of the German State and had worked to overthrow it before WWI.  They did their best to install a commie government after WWI like they had done in Russia.  And then they incited a world-wide boycott of German goods and services before WWII.

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Spoilered idiocy

(March 12, 2018 at 7:05 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(March 12, 2018 at 7:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You've lost it completely. I am done with you and I am reporting this post.

Report it to your bosses in Jerusalem.

My grandfather spent a good part of his life hunting down Nazi's in Europe. He would be rolling in his own grave if he read your disgusting comments. Jews had nothing to do with it at all. You think that Hitler was justified in actually blaming the Jews? You couldn't be more wrong. He couldn't accept the fact that Germany was failing on an economic scale and wanted someone else to blame. Not to mention Hitler had some serious undiagnosed mental health issues.