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OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
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LOL. ‘Abiogenesis of the gaps’. I like that one.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (April 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm)He lives Wrote: I would certainly reexamine my beliefs about God if it were proven that consciousness didn't depend upon bodily states. However, it does nat follow that if consciousness can exist independently from the body therefore God exists, so I would not immediately believe in God if I were to find that out. In the Bible there were Those who were able to turn their rods into serpents: (Old Testament | Exodus 7:11 - 12) 11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. So much the same as you, I would believe that they did it.  RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm by Jehanne.)
(April 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm)He lives Wrote: If it was proven tomorrow that conscience exists outside of the body or that the spirit really does leave the body when we die would you believe in God? Let "god" heal 1,000 amputees, and I'll believe. (April 6, 2018 at 8:47 pm)He lives Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: If it happened then, why not now? (April 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I would certainly reexamine my beliefs about God if it were proven that consciousness didn't depend upon bodily states. However, it does not follow that if consciousness can exist independently from the body therefore God exists, so I would not immediately believe in God if I were to find that out. Mostly because of lack of faith. Faith precedes the miracle. (April 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm)He lives Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Let "god" heal 1,000 amputees, and I'll believe. And, so, there are no believers around today who have a good enough "faith"? Not even in places such as Africa where there is no Internet?
More faithful people alive today than have ever lived before..and we're supposed to believe that the reason miracles no longer occur is a paucity of faith?
LOL, nah, the reason miracles don't happen anymore, is because everyone has a camera phone.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (April 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm)He lives Wrote:(April 6, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Let "god" heal 1,000 amputees, and I'll believe. Have you ever heard the story of the emperors new clothes? You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (April 6, 2018 at 11:53 pm)Khemikal Wrote: More faithful people alive today than have ever lived before..and we're supposed to believe that the reason miracles no longer occur is a paucity of faith? Miracles do still happen. RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
April 7, 2018 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2018 at 10:02 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I suppose you could suddenly have something worth saying, that would be a miracle. Make up your mind, can people turn a cane into a snake, or not? You have faith -and- a camera phone, I'll bet.
Pics or it doesn't happen.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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