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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 10:28 am
(April 9, 2018 at 9:52 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: (April 9, 2018 at 9:31 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: I believe you, TD. It's just that you come off that way.
One last thing here and this is something I recently added into my previous post after your reply. The paranormal researchers would claim that the scientific method has never demonstrated the paranormal evidence as being fake. They would claim that there is, in fact, testable, repeatable evidence for these phenomena and that skeptics just refuse to accept the evidence. This is yet another reason why I stick with my position in this debate.
It seems that you have jumped to the conclusion that skeptics have jumped to conclusions.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:25 am
(April 10, 2018 at 10:28 am)polymath257 Wrote: (April 9, 2018 at 9:52 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: One last thing here and this is something I recently added into my previous post after your reply. The paranormal researchers would claim that the scientific method has never demonstrated the paranormal evidence as being fake. They would claim that there is, in fact, testable, repeatable evidence for these phenomena and that skeptics just refuse to accept the evidence. This is yet another reason why I stick with my position in this debate.
It seems that you have jumped to the conclusion that skeptics have jumped to conclusions.
Actually, I am open minded to the idea that these shortcut methods skeptics use really are the right methods. But I am not sure which means I am just expressing a particular view without being convinced of that view. I am expressing the view that using shortcut methods to arrive at the truth is a flawed method even though I am not actually convinced of that view.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:26 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2018 at 11:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I'm saying something, in that I'm saying nothing that's totally something but not anything in particular except that you don't know what you're saying...but maybe not that.
I guess you can never really know what you're saying, now.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:32 am
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(April 10, 2018 at 11:26 am)Khemikal Wrote: I'm saying something, in that I'm saying nothing that's totally something but not anything in particular except that you don't know what you're saying...but maybe not that.
I guess you can never really know what you're saying, now.
Yep. Lazy. Doesn't want to do any investigation themselves, and then wants to complain that others arrived at a conclusion.Not saying anything, really. Just complaining. Or suggesting everyone might be wrong.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2018 at 11:44 am by Transcended Dimensions.)
(April 10, 2018 at 11:32 am)polymath257 Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 11:26 am)Khemikal Wrote: I'm saying something, in that I'm saying nothing that's totally something but not anything in particular except that you don't know what you're saying...but maybe not that.
I guess you can never really know what you're saying, now.
Yep. Lazy. Doesn't want to do any investigation themselves, and then wants to complain that others arrived at a conclusion.Not saying anything, really. Just complaining. Or suggesting everyone might be wrong.
I am suggesting that people might be close minded and jumping to conclusions. As for laziness, a person might have an interest in a particular thing such as video games, but has no interest in researching about the technical aspects of video games and video game systems. The person just wants to play the video games without doing the research. I have an interest in the idea of the afterlife because I would really want the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams to exist. But I have no interest in doing the research. Neither can I comprehend the research. It would be no different than how an average person having fun playing video games cannot comprehend the technical research in regards to video games and video game systems.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2018 at 11:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You don't know what you're suggesting, because I disagree that's what you're suggesting, and you suggested that disagreement means you have no way of knowing.
Or maybe you didn't really know that either?
I further contend that you have no interest in the afterlife, and that you don't want eternal blissful life. Have you really taken the long and arduous journey to knowledge of self awareness? I contend that you haven't.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:51 am
(April 10, 2018 at 11:47 am)Khemikal Wrote: You don't know what you're suggesting, because I disagree that's what you're suggesting, and you suggested that disagreement means you have no way of knowing.
Or maybe you didn't really know that either?
I further contend that you have no interest in the afterlife, and that you don't want eternal blissful life. Have you really taken the long and arduous journey to knowledge of self awareness? I contend that you haven't.
I obviously have an interest in the blissful afterlife of my dreams because I went on a 100 page topic in regards to how my feelings of bliss make my life beautiful. Given this, I would obviously want a blissful afterlife.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 11:53 am
I give you nothing, and because I disagree, you can know nothing.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 12:15 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 11:42 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 11:32 am)polymath257 Wrote: Yep. Lazy. Doesn't want to do any investigation themselves, and then wants to complain that others arrived at a conclusion.Not saying anything, really. Just complaining. Or suggesting everyone might be wrong.
I am suggesting that people might be close minded and jumping to conclusions. As for laziness, a person might have an interest in a particular thing such as video games, but has no interest in researching about the technical aspects of video games and video game systems. The person just wants to play the video games without doing the research. I have an interest in the idea of the afterlife because I would really want the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams to exist. But I have no interest in doing the research. Neither can I comprehend the research. It would be no different than how an average person having fun playing video games cannot comprehend the technical research in regards to video games and video game systems.
Then don't complain that perhaps nobody knows enough to construct video games.
If you want to understand, you have to put in the effort. If you don't want to put in the effort, you don't have the right to criticize the conclusions of those that do.
You want warm fuzzies without thought. OK. Don't expect anyone else to listen to your speculations then.
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RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 10, 2018 at 12:37 pm
(April 9, 2018 at 5:17 pm)haig Wrote: Just read a review by CSI of a book by Dean Radin, and as expected, the author mirepresents and cherry picks data to change results. Soooooo zero credibility.
Yeah, there's an unbiased source....(don't think so.) Any group with skeptical in their name can pretty much be counted on to defend the brand.
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