Sooooo...."lot's and lot's, but is that even wrong?"

(April 12, 2018 at 12:01 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: As long as we are making up fake news... I still think that there needs to be a death ray tied in there somewhere!  Since we are only claiming that the NRA works off of fear and lies... you know.

Not going to play your bullshit game.

I don't wan't to hear shit from you when you claim you want to reduce firearm violence, and that you DONT support the NRA, but repeat the very dangerous rhetoric 45 repeats vilifying the watchdog press.

If you want to live in a country that runs on propaganda, go try North Korea.


The intent of the writers of those links were simply pointing out yet another type of tactic. If Russia is willing to use social media to spread lies and misinformation they are certainly capable of making attempts to influence the NRA, not to mention the NRA has been lying themselves for over 30 years. They might simply be reporting a new tactic at this point.

By calling these out maybe those attempts wont happen again. But you are stupidly assuming there was no ill intent in making this attempt.

Even with domestic crimes, the smart criminals know that pumping large amounts of money through a bank or org will raise red flags at the SEC and IRS.

Small amounts don't raise red flags, so it makes it harder and takes longer to detect.

(April 12, 2018 at 12:11 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Sooooo...."lot's and lot's, but is that even wrong?"

Wiki leaks is the story of real Russian interference that may have gotten Trump elected.  But nobody wants to talk about that, because it exposed the DNC as being undeniably crooked.  So best to put that behind us.

So instead we get half-assed stories about 'Russian-Linked' $2500 with no confirmation it was even inappropriate.   And lots of stuff on Facebook Memes.   Can't forget Jesus armwrestling the Devil, and how that won Trump Pennsylvania. 

And it works just as well, because people are dumb.

I think I have quite eneough propaganda right here... thanks!

And I’m on your side... we need to stop the NRA death ray, that Russia bought for $2,500.

It’s their mind control device that makes you think I’m with Trump. You don’t hear 45 warning you about the death ray, which is how you know it’s true.

What on earth are you talking about Henry?  People -are- talking about wikileaks..up to and including an investigation by one Robert Mueller...lol.....?

It's precisely because of the neverending discoveries of criminal shit, grifty shit, obstructive shit, and general asshattery that some of us are starting to wonder if anything can or will be done about any of it.  At some point, too many folks have too much skin in the game...and as we've already discussed...law and order is for the little people.

1.3 million people per year die per year in road crashes. We need to ban death rays!

(April 12, 2018 at 12:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: What on earth are you talking about Henry?  People -are- talking about wikileaks..up to and including an investigation by one Robert Mueller...lol.....?

It's precisely because of the neverending discoveries of criminal shit, grifty shit, obstructive shit, and general asshattery that some of us are starting to wonder if anything can or will be done about any of it.  At some point, too many folks have too much skin in the game...and as we've already discussed...law and order is for the little people.

You think wiki leaks is getting the appropriate share of coverage, compared to 'Facebook memes' and other half-ass 'russian-linked' stories?

Depends..I'm guessing you read wingnut news...so..for you...probably not.

(April 12, 2018 at 12:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: 1.3 million people per year die per year in road crashes. We need to ban death rays!

"Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this"

FUCK YOU.

AND THANKS for proving yourself to be a FUCKING LIAR.

Try 40,100

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/traffic-...cture.html

Now where did you hear me argue we should not tackle that too. 

I think car companies ARE doing the wrong thing by allowing distracting screen technology and GPS and cell phones. I think although they did add seat belts and air bags, they SHOULD get sued for putting out dangerous products. 

BUT between cars and guns, only ONE is intended to kill by design. And only one industry is far more protected from lawsuits and recalls.

YES we should tackle car safety as well, we could start by getting rid of screen technology and REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT. 

It's called MULTI TASKING. 

And please don't bring this BULLSHIT argument up again, this isn't the first time and you are not the only one.

YOU YOURSELF SAID you don't like the amount of firearm violence. I DON'T EITHER.

I also think car companies COULD do a better job too. 

But the issue is FIREARMS, if you want to start a thread about cars, I'd agree we need to reduce those fatalities too.

Don't fucking try to make this an either or argument.

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(April 12, 2018 at 12:05 pm)henryp Wrote:

(April 12, 2018 at 11:54 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yea sorry but where there is smoke there is fire. 17 agencies ALL agreed Russia was interfering. 

I've assumed Russia has been 'meddling' in every american election since at least the 50's.   I also assume the US has 'interfered' in just about every election in the world.  

I remember Mitt calling Russia the #1 geopolitical foe in 2012, and then Barack saying "80's called and want their cold war back."  And democrats all simultaneously jizzed into eachothers faces across the country because Obama was so smart and clever, and Mitt was a dummy.  

Of course, it was not a secret Russians meddled in the 2012 elections as well.  Obama was well aware of it.  So what's changed? 

The answer is that the people who tell you what to think have decided they want this to be your main focus now.

No, not one bit. 

I have known for decades that our enemies will always try to fuck with us so when you say, "This is nothing new" where do you get the idea I disagreed with you.

I pointed out those articles as a possible NEW tactic and again, it should not surprise anyone it goes deeper than you think.

If the NRA is willing to lie about risk of injury and death in the home, and willing to lie about cost to the tax payers, and YOU just said our enemies have always tried to fuck with us, AND I AGREE, then you are stupid to ignore this.

Yea sure Obama was aware of it, so was Bush Jr and Clinton and Bush Sr and Reagan, like you said. FOREVER.

That does not mean it is acceptable or should be. Maybe instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires whom don't need them, we should fund our security and intel more.

Maybe we need to say FUCK THE NRA, we can KEEP the second amendment but not support that lobby.

Just like we know are enemies will fuck with us, does not mean we should do nothing at all.

(April 12, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 12, 2018 at 12:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: 1.3 million people per year die per year in road crashes. We need to ban death rays!

"Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this"

FUCK YOU.

AND THANKS for proving yourself to be a FUCKING LIAR.

Try 40,100

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/traffic-...cture.html

Now where did you hear me argue we should not tackle that too. 

I think car companies ARE doing the wrong thing by allowing distracting screen technology and GPS and cell phones. I think although they did add seat belts and air bags, they SHOULD get sued for putting out dangerous products. 

BUT between cars and guns, only ONE is intended to kill by design. And only one industry is far more protected from lawsuits and recalls.

YES we should tackle car safety as well, we could start by getting rid of screen technology and REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT. 

It's called MULTI TASKING. 

And please don't bring this BULLSHIT argument up again, this isn't the first time and you are not the only one.

YOU YOURSELF SAID you don't like the amount of firearm violence. I DON'T EITHER.

I also think car companies COULD do a better job too. 

But the issue is FIREARMS, if you want to start a thread about cars, I'd agree we need to reduce those fatalities too.

Don't fucking try to make this an either or argument.

Who's lying?
http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-r...statistics


And don't pretend, that you are on the side of good, when you are not willing to ban cars and death rays. You don't care about the little children and baby seals. Your just out to make a buck. You lied before, which is how you know that this is true!