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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 16, 2018 at 7:04 am
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Because it didn't. It regulated it, at best. Magic book says what magic books says regardless of whether a person believes or not. Being generous, it's the "Grass on field, play ball" theory of sexual maturity and informed consent, which allows for a person to purchase and own a child in advance of their usefulness..whatever that may be to any given pedo.
Why anyone thinks that this is particularly praiseworthy is beyond me. Personally, I don;t see the point in asserting this bundle of slimy rules if there's going to be one great big caveat to them all. If you can't or don't want to abide by them..just go buy a girl. Totally kosher.
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 16, 2018 at 7:15 am
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Is the concept of prime strength to face life, mental maturity to be responsible over how an orphan can spend his own wealth given by the state, and mental guidance with respect to facing life, all ambiguous subjective concepts? Those have been equated with age of when marriage is allowed.
Sure the age can change and vary person to person, that is why Quran doesn't specify an age, and among the reasons as well is that it changes in different circumstances and the type of factors in life and situation.
And Moses was said to be given wisdom AFTER he reached maturity.
I would say while subjective it's also very objective in the given circumstance or time. The Quran put's in perspective with orphans. When is a orphan ready to face the world and be left to themselves and spend their money as they see fit?
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 16, 2018 at 7:50 am
You're only telling me that, in your opinion..child brides and sex slaves are a feature...not a bug.
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 16, 2018 at 4:37 pm
(April 16, 2018 at 7:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Is the concept of prime strength to face life, mental maturity to be responsible over how an orphan can spend his own wealth given by the state, and mental guidance with respect to facing life, all ambiguous subjective concepts? Those have been equated with age of when marriage is allowed.
Sure the age can change and vary person to person, that is why Quran doesn't specify an age, and among the reasons as well is that it changes in different circumstances and the type of factors in life and situation.
Using that as a standard is just laying the groundwork for men to abuse it, and ultimately, abuse girls who aren't really mature enough to be consenting.
The Quran is just opening the floodgates to a lot of officially sanctioned evil with such loose and subjective standards.
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 16, 2018 at 11:47 pm
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Wherein both will be those (maidens) restraining their glances upon their husbands, whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them (Quran 55:56, Mushin)
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 17, 2018 at 1:35 am
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(April 15, 2018 at 4:55 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay, so now I have to find the true creator, which presumably means being a Muslim?
Do you think it's reasonable and fair Atlas, for me to be sent to hell for (a) not coming to that conclusion or (b) not wanting to be a Muslim even if Allah exists?
This question is open to people from other religions too. I'm not interested in joining any religion, or worshiping anything, regardless of whether any of their claims are true.
Do I therefor deserve to receive a lesser afterlife (possibly involving torture)?
Do I deserve it for coming to the "wrong" conclusion based in my assessment of the evidence?
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 17, 2018 at 3:06 am
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 17, 2018 at 3:55 am
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Okay, well I would hold God to a higher moral standard than humans, not a lower one.
He tortures people who are illogical. That’s absolutely absurd, just stop and think about that. I want nothing to do with such a sadistic, petty maniac.
PS: the sun burning someone, or them being killed by jumping off a mountain are non-sentient results of cause and effect. If the sun was intelligent and was burning people just because it wanted to, that would be just as absurd and monstrous.
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 17, 2018 at 4:58 am
(April 17, 2018 at 3:55 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay, well I would hold God to a higher moral standard than humans, not a lower one.
He tortures people who are illogical. That’s absolutely absurd, just stop and think about that. I want nothing to do with such a sadistic, petty maniac.
PS: the sun burning someone, or them being killed by jumping off a mountain are non-sentient results of cause and effect. If the sun was intelligent and was burning people just because it wanted to, that would be just as absurd and monstrous. God in the Quran is not an Anthropomorphized entity. You can't attribute human traits to him.
That's the difference of Islam from Christianity. God in Islam is not even drawn for the same exact reason: attribution of human traits to him is Anthropomorphism that is not valid at all.
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RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 17, 2018 at 5:48 am
(April 17, 2018 at 3:06 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: He is a fact and a truth that has nothing like him; so how can I not blame the sun, but blame God?
The sun burns. That's what it does.
God tortures creations that make logical faults. That's what he does. Also he has mercy on the creations that believe in him.
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