(April 25, 2018 at 2:20 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Sure.  Just tell pappy jesus you're sorry and all is well.  Go out and do the same thing over and over and pappy jesus...what a sap this fucker is...will forgive you every time.

No wonder xtians are such pompous pricks.  They think they can get away with anything by saying "sorry."


Assholes.

It's strange that you guys get pissed off at the notion that god judges...and at the notion that he forgives.

It is truly strange that alleged adult believes such utter fucking nonsense.

Wrong thread

(April 25, 2018 at 3:10 pm)Divinity Wrote: Guilt over sending them to heaven?  Why would she feel guilty about that?

You tell me. She apparently would, since she'd think the eternal lashings would be justified, as you indicated previously.

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(April 25, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It is truly strange that alleged adult believes such utter fucking nonsense.

No, it isn't. Most adults have had some such beliefs. You guys are the strange ones.

(April 25, 2018 at 4:25 pm)alpha male Wrote: You tell me. She apparently would, since she'd think the eternal lashings would be justified, as you indicated previously.

They'd be justified because then she'd be giving God a reason to be angry other than her being a lesbian.  At least then she'd have actually done something to him (namely hurt his followers).  That should be obvious.

(April 25, 2018 at 2:20 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 1:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Sure.  Just tell pappy jesus you're sorry and all is well.  Go out and do the same thing over and over and pappy jesus...what a sap this fucker is...will forgive you every time.

No wonder xtians are such pompous pricks.  They think they can get away with anything by saying "sorry."


Assholes.

It's strange that you guys get pissed off at the notion that god judges...and at the notion that he forgives.

God doesn't judge.

Jesus does.


Matthew 28 (KJV)
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

(April 25, 2018 at 4:25 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 3:10 pm)Divinity Wrote: Guilt over sending them to heaven?  Why would she feel guilty about that?

You tell me. She apparently would, since she'd think the eternal lashings would be justified, as you indicated previously.

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(April 25, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It is truly strange that alleged adult believes such utter fucking nonsense.

No, it isn't. Most adults have had some such beliefs. You guys are the strange ones.

But we got better.  What's your excuse?

(April 25, 2018 at 11:20 am)alpha male Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 11:09 am)Grandizer Wrote: You're a grown up, dude. Enough fantasies.

Yes, I'm a grown-up. I'm highly intelligent and fairly successful at life. And, I believe in the God of the Bible.

Other highly intelligent grown-ups have believed in other gods, or been atheists.

Point is that it's not wise to just blithely dismiss the possibility of god and an afterlife. Particularly if, as with the Christian god, a life of sin can be undone and the punishment foregone.

Highly intelligent but not a good critical thinker when it comes to the God subject.

(April 25, 2018 at 5:32 am)Jehanne Wrote:

Godscreated Wrote: It's because you haven't tried to communicate with God in the way He asks.


GC

Yours is an invitation to schziophrenia; I'll pass.

 I'm sure you must have chosen the wrong word, because I know what schizophrenia is, I  care for a young lady who is afflicted with it. besides you were the one who said He never returned your messages and it is that very word where you went wrong.

GC

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(April 25, 2018 at 6:35 am)Hammy Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 12:44 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I've never tried to speak to something that doesn't exist. I've received much from God and one thing He has made clear is there are no other gods, those who suppose there are are talking to wood and stone, silly people.

GC

I'm not denying that God exists to you. I'm not denying that you've received much from him. What I am denying is that he exists outside your imagination or that you received anything other than your own thoughts based on your own conception of an imaginary entity. When you 'received much from God' you were receiving much crap from your own brain.

 You were correct in the first part of your reply then you got way off course. God isn't an imagination, he has proven himself to me in many ways, ways the unbelieving can't imagine and I do not really care whether you believe me or not.

GC

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(April 25, 2018 at 9:37 am)vorlon13 Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote:   Jehanne gives you kudos for not answering what about the age of the Protestant Church and Jesus never hurt anyone and was well within His right to chase those off who were defiling the temple, the House of God. You see that temple was His also.

GC

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Can I get you to take a shot at reconciling "Chasing people with a whip Jesus" with "Meek Jesus" ??  Someone chasing me with a whip I'm unlikely to ever refer to as 'meek', but I would entertain some thoughts on squaring up the confusion here, which, unfortunately so far, seems to be in Jesus's head, not mine.

Meek: Hebrew, Anav- Oppressed, afflicted- applies to those who would rather suffer wrong than to do wrong. Jesus suffered the wrongs of all of mankind for mankind. You wouldn't refer to Jesus as meek because you can't understand what He did for you. It is your head that's not in the right place, not the God of the universe. 

vorlon13 Wrote:Matthew 11   (KJV)
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.


If Jesus was chasing you with a whip for perhaps an ill directed donation of yours to a fraudulent ministry, would the word 'meek' spring unbidden in your mind during the chase ??

 The verse focuses on us learning from Jesus and what are we to learn, meekness, Jesus would rather we suffer wrong than to do wrong. Jesus would rather us submit than to disobey. What you are missing in all this is that Jesus had the heavenly authority to chastise those who were making a mockery of the place where people were suppose to be worshiping God, not taking advantage of the worshipers. Until you can recognize the authority of Jesus it is hopeless for you to understand who He is and why He did what He did for us. To answer the last sentence of your's which basically I have here's where you went wrong, those people selling in the temple were doing wrong by conducting business inside the temple grounds actually they were on the temple steps and they were also in the wrong because they were taking advantage of those paying them, not donating as you would have it. that money did not go to the temple or the ministry the priest of the temple would be doing, the salers were pocketing the money. You see they were not sacrificing anything it was total gain for them. I do not know this as fact but by common sense I would say the Pharisees, Sadducees and or priest were getting a portion of that dollar.
Jesus has rebuked me on many occasions and I still consider Him meek because He suffered in my place and I see His authority to rebuke me and i know he does so because he loves me. Again I think it's to bad you can not see the beauty in all this.

GC

(April 25, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Divinity Wrote:

(April 25, 2018 at 4:25 pm)alpha male Wrote: You tell me. She apparently would, since she'd think the eternal lashings would be justified, as you indicated previously.

They'd be justified because then she'd be giving God a reason to be angry other than her being a lesbian.  At least then she'd have actually done something to him (namely hurt his followers).  That should be obvious.

OK, you're actually arguing that your daughter wouldn't feel guilty about killing Christians. Not sure what you think that gets you, but have at it.

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(April 25, 2018 at 10:33 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Highly intelligent but not a good critical thinker when it comes to the God subject.

In what way?

GC,

Speaking and/or talking to invisible entities who do not talk back is, for me, a waste of time.