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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Without details it's hard to determine "pretty rough" and put it in context.

I'd prefer not to share that on this board where I am hated by numerous people.  Every weakness I have will be exploited and mocked.  That is part of the MO of a number of the posters here.  Not all but a number of them.

Then sorry but I'm not gonna by your "pretty rough" assessment. I've seen to many christians IRL state that they have a hard life when they actually have no clue.

Edit: And why do you care if you're hated here? I doubt that you consider much that we say as valid and you can turn us off at any time.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I;m over here trying to pull your baby out of a fire you started..and you're arguing with me, and refusing to let me do so, lol.

Do you need to be right so badly that you'd reduce your own god to a joke?

I am not arguing with you.  We just disagree on some things.  

No, I just know what I know and then I have my own personal beliefs.  If you choose to believe otherwise that is your prerogative.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Like I said, that;s your call, but if you insist that your god is ID god who granted you an ability you don;t have.....then your god is demonstrable fiction. Your disagreement is irrelevant.

-and only because you demanded that it be so.

#fisherofmenfail
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He must hate evil to be perfectly loving.

Evil is terrible and deserves to be hated.  I don't wish evil on anyone.  There is righteous killing though; such as, during a just war, in self-defense, or when justly hunting animals to eat.  That is not evil.  Murder is evil though.  God hates murder, rape, adultery, disrespect to parents,...

See, this is exactly what I mean. Adultery and disrespect to parents is not the same as murder and rape. But your god still hates it, and so too do his followers. The hateful god that you are depicting is very different from an understanding god that one would expect a loving god to be.

I am entirely in agreement with Abaddon here. You are one sick individual.

The god you worship is actually a projected image of your own hatred.

No, they are not the same.  Some sins are worse than others but they are all still sins.  He does hate sin and we are to hate sin as well.  The action of sin.  He will forgive those sins if you turn to Him and repent asking forgiveness and turning away from those sins.  He will even forgive you when you stumble and fall again.  He is a very loving and forgiving Lord.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 9:30 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 9:17 am)Mathilda Wrote: But if a human designs something and they have free will, then your god could not have designed it.

God gave man the ability to design.  We are in God's image; hence, God can design so we can design.  God gets angry so we get angry,....

That's what it says in the bible. However, that leaves us with some puzzling questions.

I've written up the reasons for this and the questions, and have tried to get answers from as many Christians as I can.

If you would be so kind, I'd like to get your response to this, too. See my post, here.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

I'd prefer not to share that on this board where I am hated by numerous people.  Every weakness I have will be exploited and mocked.  That is part of the MO of a number of the posters here.  Not all but a number of them.

Then sorry but I'm not gonna by your "pretty rough" assessment. I've seen to many christians IRL state that they have a hard life when they actually have no clue.

Edit: And why do you care if you're hated here? I doubt that you consider much that we say as valid and you can turn us off at any time.

You don't have to.  "Pretty rough" is subjective anyway so it can be spun any way someone chooses.  That's what I mean "pretty rough" is subjective.  

I have done nothing but state the truth here but yet a lot of people on here still hate me.  It is Biblical and spiritual.  I stay on here to discuss the truth that the Creator is proven based on the information in DNA and based on other evidence and hope someone is getting it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, they are not the same.  Some sins are worse than others but they are all still sins.  He does hate sin and we are to hate sin as well.  The action of sin.  He will forgive those sins if you turn to Him and repent asking forgiveness and turning away from those sins.  He will even forgive you when you stumble and fall again.  He is a very loving and forgiving Lord.

But my point is that hating so called sins is not a sign of a loving god if sin is something as innocuous as adultery or being disrespectful to parents. A loving god would understand why it was happening. Most teenagers are disrespectful to their parents. It's a simple consequence of their biology. Adultery may happen in a loveless marriage and be the only true love the person gets. Hating these acts isn't love. Worshipping such a god is a sign of a hateful person. As we all recognise from how you talk about socialism and menstrual girls.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Like I said, that;s your call, but if you insist that your god is ID god who granted you an ability you don;t have.....then your god is demonstrable fiction.  Your disagreement is irrelevant.

-and only because you demanded that it be so.

#fisherofmenfail

We only disagree on the science.  For some reason I see it crystal clear and you don't.  Maybe there are spiritual reasons why.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
You;re a profligate loon who brought us discredited psuedo-science and soundly proved that your god doesn;t exist. "Spiritual reasons" are irrelevant.

Had it never occurred to you that..even though you thought you were here to spread the word...god put us in front of you to correct your own misunderstandings? No, no, ofc it didn;t. You know better than god.

Yet another example of the decline of christianity.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 9:30 am)CDF47 Wrote: God gave man the ability to design.  We are in God's image; hence, God can design so we can design.  God gets angry so we get angry,....

That's what it says in the bible.  However, that leaves us with some puzzling questions.

I've written up the reasons for this and the questions, and have tried to get answers from as many Christians as I can.

If you would be so kind, I'd like to get your response to this, too.  See my post, here.

OK, I will try to take a look in a bit and try to respond.

(May 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, they are not the same.  Some sins are worse than others but they are all still sins.  He does hate sin and we are to hate sin as well.  The action of sin.  He will forgive those sins if you turn to Him and repent asking forgiveness and turning away from those sins.  He will even forgive you when you stumble and fall again.  He is a very loving and forgiving Lord.

But my point is that hating so called sins is not a sign of a loving god if sin is something as innocuous as adultery or being disrespectful to parents. A loving god would understand why it was happening. Most teenagers are disrespectful to their parents. It's a simple consequence of their biology. Adultery may happen in a loveless marriage and be the only true love the person gets. Hating these acts isn't love. Worshipping such a god is a sign of a hateful person. As we all recognise from how you talk about socialism and menstrual girls.

Adultery and disrespect to parents is not innocuous.  It is sinful and should be repented.  I think adultery is worse than disrespect to parents but both are sins.

Yeah, I am not a fan of socialism.  I am glad I live in a Constitutional Republic.

(May 16, 2018 at 2:45 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You;re a profligate loon who brought us discredited psuedo-science and soundly proved that your god doesn;t exist.  "Spiritual reasons" are irrelevant.

Had it never occurred to you that..even though you thought you were here to spread the word...god put us in front of you to correct your own misunderstandings?  No, no, ofc it didn;t.  You know better than god.

Yet another example of the decline of christianity.

You didn't correct any misunderstandings though.
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