(May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: 1)Out of that monster list of scientific fails your only correction was Ice caps growing.. It funny you can't see the point I'm making even with all those scientific fails.

Religion is 100% fail with no corrections. Science corrects its mistakes because with science there is a such thing as progress. Unlike religion which is just a bunch of myths stagnating. The only possible progress for religion is either it to all become more and more allegorical until absolutely nothing about reality is actually being said... or a loss of faith altogether.



Again, it's ironic, because you couldn't even post here on AF were it not for science. The very fact you were capable of making this thread proves your statements about science being bullshit. It is not 'all wrong'. How absurd. It couldn't possibly be or you could not even post that it was.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:08 am)Hammy Wrote: The only possible progress for religion is either it to all become more and more allegorical until absolutely nothing about reality is actually being said... or a loss of faith altogether.

We're very nearly at that point with christianity, a minority of retrograde imbeciles like drich aside.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:10 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 10:08 am)Hammy Wrote: The only possible progress for religion is either it to all become more and more allegorical until absolutely nothing about reality is actually being said... or a loss of faith altogether.

We're very nearly at that point with christianity, a minority of retrograde imbeciles like drich aside.

No, unfortunately we have a long way to go.

Creationism is very common. Especially in America but it's spreading over to the UK as well. Although it's next to nonexistent there still, thankfully.

Futhermore even moderate Christians still believe in unscientific stuff like the fact that Jesus literally resurrected.

But yeah, Christianity is on the whole a lot more allegorical than it was. If only Islam were the same.

Christianity is still miles behind Judaism though.

(May 17, 2018 at 9:58 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 9:53 am)Shell B Wrote: That said, I'm still pretty sure you're a Poe, so whatevs.

He's pretty representative of the virulent form of christerism in central florida, sad as that may be.

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I hate it when people post links and don;t realize that -someone- will actually read them.

Quote:We’re essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica,” said Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology. “Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.”  Zwally added that his team “measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas.”

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Quote:But it might only take a few decades for Antarctica’s growth to reverse, according to Zwally. “If the losses of the Antarctic Peninsula and parts of West Antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in East Antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- I don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.”

You were saying, Drich?  

keep reading dummy

Quote:The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.  

Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.

just in case you've completely deluded yourself let me break it down

Antarctica makes 200 million tons of ice again per year.
While it looses 65 million tons

so subtract 200 from 65, 145 MILLION tons of Ice per year..

Now that was at the height of global warming in 2008. global warming has now been in a decline for almost 10 years now. (which is why we have the name change/global climate change)

Did you get it? can you see it now?

You're a creationist who is only able to post on the internet because of science and yet you say science gets it all wrong. Hilarious really. There's not one example where religion gets it right but countless where science does.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:13 am)Drich Wrote: keep reading dummy

Quote:Did you get it? can you see it now?

I can see that you're bad at math -and- reading comprehension. The truly amusing bit, is that you linked to an article from 2015...before chunks the size of states started sheering off. The amount of ice in the antarctic being replaced every year was already decreasing at a rate that wasn;t sustainable, but it;s since accelerated in rate of loss - while the rate of replacement on the cold current side has decreased.

Why is the denial of the reality of fucking ice loss an article of your faith..anyway? I can;t find anywhere in magic book that it says "thou must bicker with your betters about snowfall"............? Chapter and verse, please.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:08 am)Hammy Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: 1)Out of that monster list of scientific fails your only correction was Ice caps growing.. It funny you can't see the point I'm making even with all those scientific fails.

Religion is 100% fail with no corrections. Science corrects its mistakes because with science there is a such thing as progress. Unlike religion which is just a bunch of myths stagnating. The only possible progress for religion is either it to all become more and more allegorical until absolutely nothing about reality is actually being said... or a loss of faith altogether.



Again, it's ironic, because you couldn't even post here on AF were it not for science. The very fact you were capable of making this thread proves your statements about science being bullshit. It is not 'all wrong'. How absurd. It couldn't possibly be or you could not even post that it was.

Not the same science moron

Theoretical science is not applied science.

I am an engineer and have a company based on applied science. there are no variables hypothesis or guessing of any kind in aplied science. The big bang however is not an applied science. it by definition is theoretical in nature.

That said justify your comment that religion is 100% fail.

I can think of world wide missions long term... meaning when the camera's stopped in haiti and all the movie sars moved on and the red cross drops off because they exceeded their budjets for that region for the year, who remains? The various church out reaches and missions. I am still being asked every week to put money in the plate for hati. while most of you don't even know it still look like New orleans after katrina in places.

There is one example where the church does not fail 100% of the time.. and I can think of at least 10 more off the cuff locally.. from inner city reading programs, inner city camps, benevolence out reaches/food and critical bill help, drug programs, free consoling marriage, drug, depression ect..

again how is that a fail?

Another "engineer", lol.

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(May 17, 2018 at 10:12 am)Hammy Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 10:10 am)Khemikal Wrote: We're very nearly at that point with christianity, a minority of retrograde imbeciles like drich aside.

No, unfortunately we have a long way to go.

Creationism is very common. Especially in America but it's spreading over to the UK as well. Although it's next to nonexistent there still, thankfully.

Futhermore even moderate Christians still believe in unscientific stuff like the fact that Jesus literally resurrected.

But yeah, Christianity is on the whole a lot more allegorical than it was. If only Islam were the same.

Christianity is still miles behind Judaism though.

It;s not just the laity, the institutions themselves are walking a fine line, trying to split the baby...and moving the overton window for their congregations in an effort to preserve market share.

The C of E is the eventual fate of all christendom, lol. Sure, though, judaism is miles ahead..it had an earlier start. It stopped believing in a literal nature of it's creation myths before the christians stole and butchered them.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:22 am)Drich Wrote: Not the same science moron

Theoretical science is not applied science.

I am an engineer and have a company based on applied science. there are no variables hypothesis or guessing of any kind in aplied science. The big bang however is not an applied science. it by definition is theoretical in nature.

You are silly to separate the two because it is by a better understanding of the theory that the practice is able to be applied more effectively.

Stuff like the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are examples of theoretical science that are clearly correct. And there are many many more. I am by no means an expert but anyone even mildly intelligent is able to see how much sense, say, evolution makes.

Quote:That said justify your comment that religion is 100% fail.

I don't have to. Religion does it for me. Give me one example of where we once had a scientific explanation for something that was not only shown to be wrong but was replaced by a more accurate explanation from religion. Many times it's happened the other way around.

Quote:I can think of world wide missions long term... meaning when the camera's stopped in haiti and all the movie sars moved on and the red cross drops off because they exceeded their budjets for that region for the year, who remains? The various church out reaches and missions. I am still being asked every week to put money in the plate for hati. while most of you don't even know it still look like New orleans after katrina in places.

What has any of that got to do with accurate theories about reality?

Quote:There is one example where the church does not fail 100% of the time.. and I can think of at least 10 more off the cuff locally.. from inner city reading programs, inner city camps, benevolence out reaches/food and critical bill help, drug programs, free consoling marriage, drug, depression ect..

None of that has anything to do with reality.

Quote:again how is that a fail?

Because listing a bunch of deluded people mutually enjoying a placebo, religion being the opium of the masses, is not an example of religion accurately describing reality.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:15 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 10:13 am)Drich Wrote: keep reading dummy

Quote:Did you get it? can you see it now?

I can see that you're bad at math -and- reading comprehension.  The truly amusing bit, is that you linked to an article from 2015...before chunks the size of states started sheering off.  The amount of ice in the antarctic being replaced every year was already decreasing at a rate that wasn;t sustainable, but it;s since accelerated in rate of loss - while the rate of replacement on the cold current side has decreased.

Why is the denial of the reality of fucking ice loss an article of your faith..anyway?  I can;t find anywhere in magic book that it says "thou must bicker with your betters about snowfall"............?  Chapter and verse, please.

Seriously between now 5-17-18 and 10-3-15 you are saying science could have flipped completely and we go from 145 million giga tons of ice being placed in surplus to being in a deficit again????
You tout the 2015 info as if it were obsolte

As foolish are you to prove the very point I am making in this thread to knock down a simple fact?

Are you not smart enough to realize the point I am making is not about individual facts, but the rate from which a fact like the 2015 report becomes obsolete in favor of a 2018 report, demands an extremely high level of faith to accept as being factual now?

That's what this thread is about, that is the satirical nature of changing pop corn god and pop corn science around... to show you, that you beliefs are founding in pop culture. your melting ice caps are no different than believing the world is flat 600 years ago. What you believe is based off of what others 'smarter than you think.' You have no tools/way of discerning whether the earth is round or flat.. just like the ice caps you take it by faith that the hand ful of people who study this stuff know what they are saying this year as apposed to the 2015 team who studied the same data then