Chapter and verse, Drich. Meanwhile...did you really just say that I had no way or tools to determine whether the earth was flat or round? I think we've finally reached Peak Drich............lol.

(May 17, 2018 at 9:25 am)Drich Wrote: I wrote/copied word for word minus 1 this:


from this:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-54824.html

Why then is it sooo.. easy for you to see and make fun of the faith of other WHEN YOU ARE PRACTICING THE EXACT SAME THING?!?!?!?!?

The reason why your so-called 'satire' never works Drich is because you're just not funny in the slightest. Or interesting. I suspect you don't even know what humour is.

I mean, you changed one word? Wow. How boring.

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(May 17, 2018 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: You have no tools/way of discerning whether the earth is round or flat..

Or you know, we could put a stick in the ground at noon near the equinox, measure how long the shadow is, travel a few hundred miles north or south, do the same and compare the different lengths. Then we can work out the circumference of the Earth.

Just saying ...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...-a-shadow/

Or we could put three sticks at least two meters off a body of water at known intervals and observe the displacement of the middle post.  You know..like we do all day erry day when we survey?  Or we could just watch a fuckin boat sail off into the distance. Or we could observe the shadow the earth throws on the moon during an eclipse...or........

Peak Fuckin Drich. So godamned stupid he can;t imagine that anyone else isn;t.

Or we could phone up someone on the other side of the world and ask whether it is dark or light. Or even just look at a web cam in our browser.

Or just keep moving in one direction........................

We could do this all day...but I don;t know if it would have any effect on our boy.  I;m pretty sure he "engineers" macaroni necklaces for a living.

I'm late coming to this thread. Did I miss a memo or something? Did our theists (Drich, GC, Lil Rik, MK, etc.) decide to have a contest to see who could most completely misrepresent science? Jesus!

I get paid to deal with idiots in the morning. It's too early in the day to volunteer my time.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:30 am)Hammy Wrote: You are silly to separate the two because it is by a better understanding of the theory that the practice is able to be applied more effectively.  

Stuff like the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are examples of theoretical science that are clearly correct. And there are many many more. I am by no means an expert but anyone even mildly intelligent is able to see how much sense, say, evolution makes.

OMg.. Seriously just 20 years ago if you removed the line between applied and theoretical science you would be touted as a joke in ANY institution of higher learning. Why? because it is fringe bullsit based on what a pop culture of egg heads want the universe to be. There are no rule there are no boundries. Money/funding drives the truth of theoritical science Look up the cern super colider that is where theoritical science was forced into the real world and it cost billions of euros to find out that the B/S those egg head were telling people was false.

You should never loose objectivity and combine theoretical science with applied science, because you open yourself up to propaganda on an uncheck scale. all anyone need do is package anything they want you to believe ina theoretical wrapper and your little preprogramed mind will think it gospel truth. That is why I say 'science' has become the new God.

Quote:That said justify your comment that religion is 100% fail.

Quote:I don't have to.

The truth is you can't. The fact that you won't only serves to prove that 'feeling is the same as fact to you.' that to most indicates a 'soft mind.'

Quote:Religion does it for me.

does not matter what soft minds think... just buy stuff and keep the economy going please.

Quote: Give me one example of where we once had a scientific explanation for something that was not only shown to be wrong but was replaced by a more accurate explanation from religion. Many times it's happened the other way around.

Actually I can think of several, get ready to eat some crow.. speaking of crow let's start dietary laws in the OT that proved to be better for us than what we ultimately compiled/recognized as the food pyramid. In fact the OT jew would be eating more of a 'paleo' diet while through out the 50 60 70 and 80 were we told to eat a carb, based diet. (being the bottom step of the pyramid) that was a big scientific fail that has come back to the bible.

another big thing was the bible pioneered the idea that everyone was equal before God and as a christian we were to treat even slaves as brothers and sisters.. this was NOT how the world work/works now, aside from a few who truly take this to heart. even up to the 50 and 60 the idea that hitler made popular in the 40's was the idea of some races being superior to others through breeding/evolution. that's a big time 'science' got it wrong.

Another OT example was written in law to quarantine the sick or infected. this was contrary to the way lived up until the late 1700's and even then gathering to help the sick was a practice that help spread disease up into the 19th century

Can pretend society did not take the opposite view of the bible on any of these things touting the bible as being obsolete i the face of all might science... now here comes science back and douche bags like you who apparently doesn't even know what is in the bible claim that it is 100% wrong because you 'feel' that way.. then you have the balls to challenge me to proove you right... seriously?

Now that you have been proven wrong what will you do? hide from the facts? or will you accept them and give credit to the bible?
of couse you won't because at your core you hate God and don't care about the truth. you will just skip to the next fact that suppose your predetermined outcome just like your precious science... ignore fact and keep looking for something to support what you want to believe. Progressive thinker you are..

Quote:I can think of world wide missions long term... meaning when the camera's stopped in haiti and all the movie sars moved on and the red cross drops off because they exceeded their budjets for that region for the year, who remains? The various church out reaches and missions. I am still being asked every week to put money in the plate for hati. while most of you don't even know it still look like New orleans after katrina in places.

Quote:What has any of that got to do with accurate theories about reality?

you said 100% church fails... the church is involved in those things. to me those outreaches can not be counted as part of a 100% fail.

Quote:There is one example where the church does not fail 100% of the time.. and I can think of at least 10 more off the cuff locally.. from inner city reading programs, inner city camps, benevolence out reaches/food and critical bill help, drug programs, free consoling marriage, drug, depression ect..

Quote:None of that has anything to do with reality.

you are delusional if you do not thing illerticy is not rampant in our inner cities, programs like sleep away camps are not needed, food give away and clothing drives are not apart of 'reality.' how is the bibg bang apart of reality? douche bag this is what I mean when you blurr the lines between theoretical science and applied sciences. you can not descern what applies in the real world and what does not on your own.

Quote:again how is that a fail?

Because listing a bunch of deluded people mutually enjoying a placebo, religion being the opium of the masses, is not an example of religion accurately describing reality.
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what a load of shite that is.. ever been to hati or a place like that trying to provide help? there is NO placebo, No warm and fuzzie, there is only this sucks and why am I here? then oh, yeah the people who need help. and so you trudge through..

One thing is for sure I am not describing what you consider to be reality. thankfully though with my feet firmly planted in applied science and in Christ I can indeed discern what is real and what is shite...

...............so...no chapter and verse?

Quote:ever been to hati or a place like that trying to provide help? there is NO placebo, No warm and fuzzie, there is only this sucks and why am I here? then oh, yeah the people who need help. and so you trudge through..

Yes, actually...and I;ve taken a fuckin hit for those people.  It;s pointless to play this card.  

Whereas...I;m guessing, you opened your wallet and gave your money to a church that -wink wink- uses that money to "help people". IIRC..the church you give your money to was recently exposed as a giant scam.....that you defended nevertheless. I think it's hilarious how reliably suckers will defend the people who con them.

(May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 9:41 am)Shell B Wrote: You have to be a Poe. Ice caps growing. Lol good one

two things...

1)Out of that monster list of scientific fails your only correction was Ice caps growing.. It funny you can't see the point I'm making even with all those scientific fails.

2) So you are claiming to know more than the folks at nasa??
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nas...han-losses

I wasn't pointing out corrections. In fact, I didn't correct you at all. I laughed at the funny one.

(May 17, 2018 at 10:13 am)Drich Wrote:

(May 17, 2018 at 9:58 am)Khemikal Wrote: He's pretty representative of the virulent form of christerism in central florida, sad as that may be.

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I hate it when people post links and don;t realize that -someone- will actually read them.

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You were saying, Drich?  

keep reading dummy

Quote:The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.  

Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.

just in case you've completely deluded yourself let me break it down

Antarctica makes 200 million tons of ice again per year.
While it looses 65 million tons

so subtract 200 from 65, 145 MILLION tons of Ice per year..

Now that was at the height of global warming in 2008. global warming has now been in a decline for almost 10 years now. (which is why we have the name change/global climate change)

Did you get it? can you see it now?

By your logic, the entire planet will be covered in ice in no time. I have to admit, you're a pretty good Poe. You've been at this for years. Bravo.