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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:04 pm
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Fake Messiah,
I explained why I believe Awliya is best translated as authorities pertaining to the religion and holy books and teachings of the Prophets (revealed to them).
(see other thread with edge cases)
Mainly it means don't take them as authorities of what is found in the Torah and Gospels, as some of them are authorities over others, and a verse clarifies later, they have made religion into a game and fun.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:04 pm
(May 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Rgr that, the deeply "islamic" bits are fucking useless. The human bits otoh, pretty nice. I note that I fit in really well in islamic culture....so long as the islam is left out. Deeply islamic people noticed that I was just like the son they wanted their kids to grow up to be. I just didn;t believe in djinn. The djinn believers, otoh..in spite of that...kept trying to kill me, lol.
-and kept failing, because they;re failures, lol. They spent too much time thinking about allah, not enough time coming up with ways to kill me.
It helps you connect with the universe. Filling that emotional "emptiness" that humans always suffer from.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
AtlasS33 Wrote:So it is written in the Bible and the Talmud, Wikipedia has an article about it with Millions of readers & editors worldwide, but it's all a "none of the above"; right?
Don't you ever claim that system; it's not yours. Secular philosophers built it, and lots of Europeans rejecting the bible and the Church's authority bled and saw what the bible and the Talmud are. Remember the illumination period -that accompanied the French revolution-?
Sadly, the Church is being revived with the reach of the right wing to the frontier. Without an illumination
You do know most of us are atheists, right?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:11 pm
(May 27, 2018 at 8:38 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Wow, what long walls of text.
I have the same problem with Islam that I have with any other religion - the idea that deities exist and the use of religion to brainwash and control others.
Sadly to find out the context of a verse you have to quote the verses behind it.
I mean come on: you read books before.Reading page 10 alone is so different from reading a page by page until page 10.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm
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Edwardo Piet Wrote:I think there's two types of religious people: honest extremist nutjobs and hypocritical cherrypicking moderates.
Both fundamentalists and moderates cherry pick. It's unavoidable given a text with contradictions as source material. Between the ones who cherry pick the worst parts and the ones who cherry pick the best parts, I prefer the latter, and they're no more hypocritical than the former.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:15 pm
If there is any contradictions in Quran, I will stop believing in it.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm
What in the world makes you think people are picking on Islam? I'd say christianity gets the majority of the crap on this site.
Although here is a difference:
Islamic countries actually stone people to death still.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm
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MysticKnight Wrote:If there is any contradictions in Quran, I will stop believing in it.
No, you'll just find an ad hoc explanation for any apparent contradictions.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:18 pm
(May 29, 2018 at 12:24 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (May 27, 2018 at 3:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OP: That it exists as a creation of man (the same as any other religion). That some of the believers are using it to manipulate other believers to commit racism, violence and atrocities against other believers and nonbelievers alike. And that the religion itself can be used to falsely justify these actions.
Maybe this was stated earlier, read very few of the other responses.
The problem then is with the manipulators, those who listen to them too. And that man created god/religion, not the other way around.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:19 pm
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(May 29, 2018 at 1:04 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (May 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Rgr that, the deeply "islamic" bits are fucking useless. The human bits otoh, pretty nice. I note that I fit in really well in islamic culture....so long as the islam is left out. Deeply islamic people noticed that I was just like the son they wanted their kids to grow up to be. I just didn;t believe in djinn. The djinn believers, otoh..in spite of that...kept trying to kill me, lol.
-and kept failing, because they;re failures, lol. They spent too much time thinking about allah, not enough time coming up with ways to kill me.
It helps you connect with the universe. Filling that emotional "emptiness" that humans always suffer from.
Speak for yourself. Speaking of....have you ever wondered whether it might be that your religion actually produced that despair you feel? Manufacture the sickness, sell the cure?
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