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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 5, 2018 at 10:20 am
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We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:
The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.
The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.
Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.
But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 5, 2018 at 11:58 am
(June 5, 2018 at 10:20 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:
The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.
The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.
Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.
But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).
Are Sunnies considered your brothers, and you don't judge them for their beliefs?
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 10:20 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We understand it, which is why we define Islam two ways:
The true religion from God (and that we don't judge who is or not on it be they a Muslim/jew etc) and submitting to God in spirit and following the truth one knows.
The testimony (Whether justified or not, truthful or liar, upon proof or upon ignorance) that there is only one God and Mohammad is his Messenger.
Muslims are in this world known by two, as for 1, they will be known on the day of judgement.
But in the mean while, yes, we interpret the Quran differently, but if it is from God, it has only one true interpretation (which may have various levels to it, but at the end, only one correct way to recite the words in meaning).
Are Sunnies considered your brothers, and you don't judge them for their beliefs?
They are my brothers, I don't judge any particular person, because I don't know their heart state.
However, Sunnism is a very bad stance to the Quran and Sunnah, it's ignorant stance, and the path of inward submission I believe should lead away from it, unless, the truth and proofs are very difficult to access.
And even if they are disbelievers by heart and all their actions prove they are snakes, in this world, they are treated as Muslim brothers.
And for example, I can marry a Sunni women and Sunni Man can marry a Shia Women.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 5, 2018 at 12:11 pm
But didn;t they kill shia jesus?
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm
The Sunnis today are not to be held to their ancestors and what they done and the rulers they sided with.
Every generation makes a choice on how they want to be and even if most Sunnis are stubborn ( I don't know if they are or not), I Won't judge a particular individual unless he places himself as a head to tyranny and oppression.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 7, 2018 at 1:02 am
Wherein both will be those (maidens) restraining their glances upon their husbands, whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them (Quran 55:56, Mushin)
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 7, 2018 at 2:27 am
If God now talks to me and I write things down, and they contradict the Quran, which one is correct?
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 7, 2018 at 3:52 am
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 8, 2018 at 10:19 am
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
June 8, 2018 at 10:37 am
Right, because it;s not as if anyone would ever have cause to leave islam. Its just a 400lb dude on his bed in jersey typing all that shit.
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