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"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
#81
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 12:32 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(June 7, 2018 at 5:54 am)Joods Wrote: And a fallen angel,  at that.

But it was already in god's plan for Satan to fall,  so he was doomed from the get go.

No it was not, Lucifer chose to disobey God and the result was his damnation.

GC

Then there is no such thing as "God's Plan".
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#82
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 3:05 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 8, 2018 at 2:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Lucy: Why
God: Shutup! I ask the questions around here!
Lucy: Why are you such a cunt?
God: Because I can ...and I can without consequences.

Yeah it's like someone in the corporate world destroying the environment for profit because it's their job. Or someone turning on the taps at the gas chambers. Life becomes a lot easier if you're just following orders and don't have to worry about the consequences of your actions. I think Lucy landed the prime job!

That really is one of the more poetic failures of christian mythmaking.  They turned him into an antihero....a flawed but promethean character.

Part of that was baked in from the start, as a significant set of christianity actually did associate jesus -as- lucifer, a god that was here to save us from the character in the OT. It was their sects idea to have a gospel in the first place, and while the nascent church decided to kill them, it kept their books and imagery, lol.
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#83
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 7, 2018 at 5:44 am)Mathilda Wrote: Isn't Satan also a god?

no.

Satan per the book of Job and other encounters between himself and God, satan is a servant. Albeit one in rebellion he yields to God never the less.
#84
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 1:53 pm)Drich Wrote:
(June 7, 2018 at 5:44 am)Mathilda Wrote: Isn't Satan also a god?

no.

Satan per the book of Job and other encounters between himself and God, satan is a servant. Albeit one in rebellion he yields to God never the less.

So he's performing Mr God's will?
#85
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
-and is Mr God responsible for his servants?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
#86
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
When discussing the Bible it pays to remember the warning advisory from Titus 1:14 (NOG) = "They shouldn’t pay attention to Jewish myths or commands given by people who are always rejecting the truth."
#87
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 1:53 pm)Drich Wrote:
(June 7, 2018 at 5:44 am)Mathilda Wrote: Isn't Satan also a god?

no.

Satan per the book of Job and other encounters between himself and God, satan is a servant. Albeit one in rebellion he yields to God never the less.

Job is just more mythology borrowed from the Ancient Sumerians. 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ludlul-bel-nemeqi


Quote:Ludlul bel nemeqi, Akkadian: “Let Me Praise the Lord of Wisdom”, in ancient Mesopotamian religious literature, a philosophical composition concerned with a man who, seemingly forsaken by the gods, speculates on the changeability of men and fate. The composition, also called the “Poem of the Righteous Sufferer” or the “Babylonian Job,” has been likened to the biblical Book of Job.


Dating back to at least 1,700 BC it far predates any of your jewish shit.
#88
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 7:00 am)Joods Wrote:
(June 8, 2018 at 12:32 am)Godscreated Wrote: No it was not, Lucifer chose to disobey God and the result was his damnation.

GC

Then there is no such thing as "God's Plan".

Maybe there is a god’s plan in which he masturbates himself into dominion over all things. But the plan fell apart when it encountered all things.

Come to think of it, that’s like GC’s plan.
#89
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
(June 8, 2018 at 12:32 am)Godscreated Wrote:   God was speaking about all the man made idols, those of wood and stone, like wise money and fame. Anything that's put first in one's life over God is an idol.

GC

That's a very telling point GC!

The way I see it, God needed to stress this subtle but important difference so much that he made a commandment out of it.
Because it would be so easy to confuse those fake gods in the form of statues and other idolatry with the real McCoy because to the untrained eye, they ALL act and interact with the world as IF they are all false and indistinguishable from each other!
That's the point we're trying to make. Thank you.
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#90
RE: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
Those other gods might require less restrictions.



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