(June 25, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Astreja Wrote: So much for Christianity and its "life in abundance," wot?  Can't be all that shit-hot if you have to come here for your jollies, CDF.

Not here for those reasons.  I post at Christian sites as well.

Quote:Wow, you nailed it.

As a description of you yes yes he did

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Quote:Not here for those reasons.  I post at Christian sites as well.

Uh huh

(June 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:Wow, you nailed it.

As a description of you yes yes he did

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Quote:Not here for those reasons.  I post at Christian sites as well.

Uh huh

Nah uh

(June 25, 2018 at 10:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Astreja Wrote: So much for Christianity and its "life in abundance," wot?  Can't be all that shit-hot if you have to come here for your jollies, CDF.

Not here for those reasons.  I post at Christian sites as well.

You're still a troll here.  I don't fucking care how you behave elsewhere; if you care enough about our opinion to waste five hundred pages of server space on crap, then obviously Christianity is not satisfying enough for your petty little ego.

Just bloody well skip to the chase and commit the Unforgivable Sin, already.  If I were your god, I'd bitch-slap your sorry ass right out of heaven and into /dev/null for the embarrassing anti-advocacy you're vomiting all over the Internet.

(June 25, 2018 at 10:57 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As a description of you yes yes he did

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Uh huh

Nah uh

Yup

(June 25, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 10:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not here for those reasons.  I post at Christian sites as well.

You're still a troll here.  I don't fucking care how you behave elsewhere; if you care enough about our opinion to waste five hundred pages of server space on crap, then obviously Christianity is not satisfying enough for your petty little ego.

Just bloody well skip to the chase and commit the Unforgivable Sin, already.  If I were your god, I'd bitch-slap your sorry ass right out of heaven and into /dev/null for the embarrassing anti-advocacy you're vomiting all over the Internet.

OK.  Whatever.

(June 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Explain why you are not engaging in special pleading.

I'm not.  There is only so much I can answer and d i s c u s s on here.

!Fact! The average city dog lives three years longer than the average country dog.

(June 12, 2018 at 10:47 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 12, 2018 at 9:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Nope.  That’s not an explaination.  If you can’t explain how he did it then it didn’t happen!

I can't explain how the space station was built.  That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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(June 12, 2018 at 10:11 am)pocaracas Wrote: What hands?!  

We are in His image.  I believe this means physically as well as with attributes.

(June 24, 2018 at 7:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 7:25 pm)Wololo Wrote: It's even more brainbendingly stupid than that. It goes "everything needs a creator, therefore god".  "Then, what created god?"  "Um... Ah... Errr... God wasn't created".  "But you said everything needs a creator, if god exists then he must be included in the set of everything".  "Oh well you see god doesn't need a creator because... Look over there, it's a flying pig!" <runs away making wooob wooob wooob noises>

God is the primordial intelligence who created all things.  Everything leads back to this intelligent mind.

(June 25, 2018 at 7:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 7:43 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Nope it was wrong then .Your case has not improved in the slightest

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The irrationality it burns

It amazes me how a non-believer will not even look at the truth in front of them.  It is truly Biblical.

I was raised christian. It amazes me how easily you are duped.

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(June 25, 2018 at 9:40 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 9:39 pm)sdelsolray Wrote: Yes, the entertainment value of a religious nutter, science illiterate buffoon and hubris filled little shit is present.  However, the entertainment value of this particular religious nutter, science illiterate buffoon and hubris filled little shit disappeared long ago.

Really, which page???  Source?  LOL

Trollolololol.

(June 25, 2018 at 6:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 1:51 pm)Wololo Wrote: If everything needs a creator, as the KCA asserts, then the question "what created god?" requires an answer describing the meta-creator, and the it's creator and that being's creator and so on in infinite regression.

It is the only possible answer to the KCA, turtles all the way down.

Their needs to be a first cause of intelligence.  The universe does not have a mind.  It took a mind to create the universe.  I believe this mind is the primordial one.

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(June 25, 2018 at 5:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Yah, if the only thing in the category 'things that don't begin to exist' is God, then it's just another term for God and the premise of the Kalam is just rewording of 'everything needs a cause, except God', and we're back to special pleading.

It pushes the problem to an intelligent mind.

Ah.... more claims.
Tell us, why is there a need for a first cause of intelligence? I am of the opinion that intelligence is an emergent property of brains. Why would it not be so?
What makes you say that it takes a mind to create the Universe?


If you look around, the planet Earth is filled with minds, some more intelligent, some less. With that, the Universe can be said to have quite a few minds in it.

Quote:Their needs to be a first cause of intelligence.  The universe does not have a mind.  It took a mind to create the universe.  I believe this mind is the primordial one.

Assertion and thanks for affirming your special pleading 

Quote:It pushes the problem to an intelligent mind.

No into an infinite regress were there is no justification to any specific point in the chain .