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Extremists: a question and a talk

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Extremists: a question and a talk
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Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 11:44 am (This post was last modified: July 7, 2018 at 11:49 am by WinterHold.)
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 11:48 am
That is why we should not seek moral lessons from make believe bull shit.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 11:53 am
The problem, Atlas, is that all of that shit is so poorly written/translated that anyone can find exactly what they want in it.  Xtians do it all the time too, so it is nothing to feel special about.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 12:47 pm (This post was last modified: July 7, 2018 at 12:47 pm by robvalue.)
Do those verses come earlier or later than the violent ones they contradict? Because if it's earlier, then they get overruled by the violent ones.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm
(July 7, 2018 at 11:44 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: But the question asked for the supporters of Jihadi movements: don't you feel shame of going against obvious, clear verses from your own religion, like the ones above?

Do children and suicide bombing casualties know in what they were killed or because of what?

You're so full of shit. The Quran fully supports religious violence without any twisting or bending.

You're nothing but another dishonest apologist.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 3:40 pm (This post was last modified: July 7, 2018 at 4:11 pm by WinterHold.)
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm
I have read the Koran twice. Translation by Abdullah Yusef Ali. That is why I left the Chisti Sufi order. The Koran is as violent as the Judeo-Christian Babble. If we want a peaceful world we need to leave this Bronze Aged bullshit behind and start asking what really will produce a peaceful world. The Abrahamic religions have overwhelmingly proved themselves incapable.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 5:01 pm
Categories 2 and 3 have a fair amount of overlap, lol.
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 7:24 pm
(July 7, 2018 at 5:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Categories 2 and 3 have a fair amount of overlap, lol.

But if they are true believers then they must not be extremists necessarily? Are you suggesting that violence is normal? If so, then wouldn't the extremists be the peaceful ones, like Atlas actually. I'm a bit confused.

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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm
(July 7, 2018 at 3:40 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(July 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're so full of shit.  The Quran fully supports religious violence without any twisting or bending.

You're nothing but another dishonest apologist.

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I brought forth the evidence from the same book you accuse; bring an opposing evidence or bring an opposing evidence.

I'm not full of shit. I pooped recently.

I already did, but you just ignored it.

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