(August 8, 2018 at 10:42 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(August 8, 2018 at 10:36 am)Kit Wrote: You just keep being you, Rik.  

Who I suppose to be?  

Father Christmas?  

Have a good day anyway.  

Perhaps let one of the other voices take control for a while...

😉🤪

(August 8, 2018 at 2:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

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(August 8, 2018 at 1:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(August 8, 2018 at 10:34 am)Little Rik Wrote: You keep on reasoning like a total fool Khem.                  

Somebody gave you a body-mind with enough consciousness to do the right thing in life not to behave like an animal that follow the instinct only.

Perhaps they did..but the "someone" in question would be my mommy and daddy.who, supposing they did give me such a body, gave it to me giftwrapped in a meatsuit that certainly does run on instinctual autopilot the vast majority of the time.

I don't even know what it's doing to will it in the first place..nor am I aware of where those control levers might be hiding......lol.

According to you..most of my behavior, or human behavior in general..is as karmically neutral as the milling around of livestock.  Additionally, karma gives out passes for things people do out of compulsion to a hypothetical karmic balance, which according to you..has an exceedingly limited scope of operation.... within a single species.

FW is just fucking your shit up left right and center.  So much so that I wonder why you felt the need to ask the OP Q?  It seems as if you're well aware.

Hey, can you freely will yourself to post a cogent response..emoji free?  Just something I've been wondering.  Or is that another thing beyond the scope of both your FW and the karmic balance?

1) Oh, you run on ........... instinctual autopilot the vast majority of the time?

That is your problem khem.
Nobody force you to.
In fact you are using your FW for something that drag you down.
The other choice is to use your FW the opposite way so you can go up in your evolutionary progress.

Don't fool yourself Khem thinking that the instinct drive is the way to go.
Your FW may turn into a dangerous tool if it is not used properly.
Don't behave like a child that play with real guns.  


2) Karma is not something very difficult to understand as you put it.
You are the master of your life.
A bank doesn't chase you around if you never borrow money and so the karma but as soon as you incur into a debt both bank and karma will be after you until the debt is fully paid off.
Isn't that simple to understand?  

3) Emoji to me are like spices.
They add more flavor provide you use them wisely.  

(August 9, 2018 at 9:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

Too much foolery can be quite dangerous yog.  

(August 5, 2018 at 11:02 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(August 5, 2018 at 1:19 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: So I located the verse:


https://asitis.com/3

How is this not hard incompatibilism/determinism? I am familiar with both metaphysical models. They say this: the will of a person is not "free will"... it is not a person's choice to do otherwise than he/she does. The will is bound by the laws of nature. It has causes outside of the human psyche, and because these causes are beyond a person's control, so too is a person's will beyond his control.

Unless you can show otherwise: the Bhagavad Gita preaches against free will. I've read the Gita several times with various commentaries/translations, so I should be able to follow any argument you put together.

Wrong again VL.

Good or bad karma can pop up anytime even when you think that it is you that are in control with your FW.

Huh, maybe you should write to the editors of this Bhagavad Gita and set them straight. You don't want them spreading distortions do you?

(August 9, 2018 at 7:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, you run on ........... instinctual autopilot the vast majority of the time?

That is your problem khem.
Nobody force you to.
In fact you are using your FW for something that drag you down.
The other choice is to use your FW the opposite way so you can go up in your evolutionary progress.

That's pretty much what it means to run on instinct.  Nobody is forcing it, not even me..which is why it's karmicly neutral, according to you.  

Meanwhile...additionally..and still according to you, sometimes karma takes the wheel and I only think I'm in control.  I'm starting to doubt the ability of karma to balance anything..even if it can and does rape some girl for kicking dogs in a previous life.  It appears as though free will and karma have a mutually destructive relationship. Free will fucks karma up like it was it's job, and karma regularly abrogates free will.

Quote: Emoji to me are like spices.
They add more flavor provide you use them wisely.  

So..no...then?  You can't freely will a cogent response or freely will yourself to cut out emojis.

(August 9, 2018 at 10:10 am)Whateverist Wrote:

(August 5, 2018 at 11:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again VL.

Good or bad karma can pop up anytime even when you think that it is you that are in control with your FW.

Huh, maybe you should write to the editors of this Bhagavad Gita and set them straight.  You don't want them spreading distortions do you?

No distortions of whatsoever mate except in your imagination.  
The laws of nature are those who establish a balance between the positive and the negative or yin and yang.
That is why the universe exist and will exist in future.
Obviously the FW is bound by the laws of nature.
How else could you pay previous debts otherwise?
These laws are the karma in action that act like a debt collector by forcing you to pay the debt that you incurred in your past so your FW is forced to deal with the karma.
As far as the karma pop up because in the past you took certain decisions with your FW then you can not say that the FW is not free.  

(August 9, 2018 at 10:42 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(August 9, 2018 at 10:10 am)Whateverist Wrote: Huh, maybe you should write to the editors of this Bhagavad Gita and set them straight.  You don't want them spreading distortions do you?

No distortions of whatsoever mate except in your imagination.  
The laws of nature are those who establish a balance between the positive and the negative or yin and yang.
That is why the universe exist and will exist in future.
Obviously the FW is bound by the laws of nature.
How else could you pay previous debts otherwise?
These laws are the karma in action that act like a debt collector by forcing you to pay the debt that you incurred in your past so your FW is forced to deal with the karma.
As far as the karma pop up because in the past you took certain decisions with your FW then you can not say that the FW is not free.  

Wait.  I thought you were challenging the passage the Vulcan quoted from the Bhagavad Gita.  So do you agree with what it says or not?

(August 9, 2018 at 10:20 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(August 9, 2018 at 7:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, you run on ........... instinctual autopilot the vast majority of the time?

That is your problem khem.
Nobody force you to.
In fact you are using your FW for something that drag you down.
The other choice is to use your FW the opposite way so you can go up in your evolutionary progress.

That's pretty much what it means to run on instinct.  Nobody is forcing it, not even me..which is why it's karmicly neutral, according to you.  

Meanwhile...additionally..and still according to you, sometimes karma takes the wheel and I only think I'm in control.  I'm starting to doubt the ability of karma to balance anything..even if it can and does rape some girl for kicking dogs in a previous life.  It appears as though free will and karma have a mutually destructive relationship.  Free will fucks karma up like it was it's job, and karma regularly abrogates free will.

Quote: Emoji to me are like spices.
They add more flavor provide you use them wisely.  

So..no...then?  You can't freely will a cogent response or freely will yourself to cut out emojis.

I made it quite clear in my previous posts as the FW and the karma work but you keep on putting up more and more stories that don't make any sense.
You entered a mental labyrinth and you got lost in it.  
Now you pretend that I show you the exit.
All I can do for you is to suggest you to read once again my posts so you can finally understand those simple things that I did write.  

Literally every Rik thread. How do you guys do it? I sure can't.