(September 17, 2011 at 3:18 pm)lucent Wrote: The way I know God is real, most of all, is because of love. When I came to know God is there, He showed me He had always been there my entire life, taking care of me. Giving me good things and keeping me out of trouble. He loved me first, and now I am returning the favor.

You sure you haven't been getting stalked your whole life? Maybe the Slender Man is going to get you.

Hey, I'm right here, reading this.

(September 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm)frankiej Wrote: Oh he is most definitely crazy

(September 17, 2011 at 3:18 pm)lucent Wrote: Because I had halluncinated before and it was nothing like that.

Hallucinations from different things are never the same... They are quite different... So you could well have hallucinated and you wouldn't know. And now you are just saying that it was God... A more plausible explanation, in my opinion.

I'm happy to share some more with you..i'll message you if that is alright.

(September 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote:

Quote:That was definitely good enough for me to suspect that reality wasn't as it appeared, however, there was a lot more that happened that day, and next week or so. I am just giving you the gist of it. It got to the point where I had no choice but to throw up my hands and say God was real. You have to remember, I wasn't looking for such revelation..it's not like I wanted to believe God was real..that was the last thing on my mind.

I don't want the mere gist of it, I want all the grisly details. For your own sake even, because you really made it sound like looking at some mountains made you catch religion.

Being honest I find you quite interesting, we're the opposite, you went from being agnostic to a born again, I went from born again to atheist. I'll be watching your forum career( Scared?? You should be!!!!!), so tell me more about this 'revelation'.

You just admitted you're prone to hallucinations, and then expect us to believe in this 'revelation' of yours, a landscape in shifting focus? Sounds like magic mushrooms to me, have any spare?

Don't message him. We all want to hear it. I am quite interested in exactly how it all made sense to you.

I know all about it. It wasn't a hallucination, nor was it the only evidence..that was just the tip of the iceberg as fas as evidence goes.

(September 17, 2011 at 3:23 pm)frankiej Wrote:

(September 17, 2011 at 3:18 pm)lucent Wrote: Because I had halluncinated before and it was nothing like that.

Hallucinations from different things are never the same... They are quite different... So you could well have hallucinated and you wouldn't know. And now you are just saying that it was God... A more plausible explanation, in my opinion.

Can you explain further please?

No, I don't expect any of you to believe it. It wasn't intended to prove anything, it's only part of my own personal experience which showed me there is a spiritual reality. Someone asked, I tried to answer.

(September 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: You just admitted you're prone to hallucinations, and then expect us to believe in this 'revelation' of yours, a landscape in shifting focus? Sounds like magic mushrooms to me, have any spare?

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At this point I'm content to let you use your imagination. I will say though if you want to know God, it isn't difficult. He isn't keeping Himself a secret. If you want to know He is real, ask Him to reveal Himself to you in prayer. He just might do it.

(September 17, 2011 at 3:31 pm)frankiej Wrote: Can you explain further please?

I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me once when I was twelve.

I got flashed by a creepy bum in a trenchcoat that afternoon. I decided right there that I didn't want to see the burning bush, let alone hear it talking.