Is this about felching?

(August 19, 2018 at 7:10 am)Aroura Wrote:

(August 19, 2018 at 5:07 am)bennyboy Wrote: Aha.

But a hole is an interrupted surface.  A straw is a rhombus, which means from any point on a straw, you can travel along the surface to reach any other point.

So what you are saying is a donut has the same number of holes in it as say, a tortilla or a muffin, since a donut is fits the same criteria as a straw.

I don't know where you are getting your definition of hole, but:

hole
həʊl/
noun

1. 1.
   a hollow place in a solid body or surface.
   

By your definition though, only a depression is a hole, if it pokes all the way through, it is no longer a hole but simply part of the shape, I guess?  Actually wait, I can still travel along a hole in the ground, so even a depression isn't a hole.  So....holes don't exist?  Because I can always travel along the surface of every hole I can think of to reach any other point.

So black holes are really giant misnomers to you, I suppose.  If I poke through a piece of paper with a pencil it is also not a hole by your definition?  I have simply turned the paper into a new shape!

Well, if you really want to get that way, let's consider the fact that we're talking about a real physical straw, not a mathematical form.

In a real physical object, there are no surfaces all-- nothing but variations in the density of wave functions vibrating in a virtual space.

Answer's still zero, then, but for a different reason.

It's one from the perspective of literally it's a continuous hole. But suppose we wish to distinguish a cylinder with an opening on top but closing on the bottom. Because humans use language to distinguish ideas from others, it would not be wrong to say it has two holes, one on top and one on bottom, but literally there is one hole in both cases, but language is not meant to be literal but communicate. From that perspective, I would go with two holes.

From another perspective it's just a hollow cylinder with two openings one on top and one on bottom, and has no holes, depending on the usage of holes. For example, if your straw was cut by a needle and had a hole in that sense, it would have that as hole while it's structure is not considered a hole.

All answers are correct from my opinion, from various angles. The trivial one is one, which is a just an over-literal way to talk and means almost nothing.

(August 19, 2018 at 8:18 am)bennyboy Wrote:

(August 19, 2018 at 7:10 am)Aroura Wrote: So what you are saying is a donut has the same number of holes in it as say, a tortilla or a muffin, since a donut is fits the same criteria as a straw.

I don't know where you are getting your definition of hole, but:

hole
həʊl/
noun

1. 1.
   a hollow place in a solid body or surface.
   

By your definition though, only a depression is a hole, if it pokes all the way through, it is no longer a hole but simply part of the shape, I guess?  Actually wait, I can still travel along a hole in the ground, so even a depression isn't a hole.  So....holes don't exist?  Because I can always travel along the surface of every hole I can think of to reach any other point.

So black holes are really giant misnomers to you, I suppose.  If I poke through a piece of paper with a pencil it is also not a hole by your definition?  I have simply turned the paper into a new shape!

Well, if you really want to get that way, let's consider the fact that we're talking about a real physical straw, not a mathematical form.

In a real physical object, there are no surfaces all-- nothing but variations in the density of wave functions vibrating in a virtual space.

Answer's still zero, then, but for a different reason.

My kid actually gave me this answer. I found it clever coming from an 11 year old.

You still haven't explained how the answer is 0 if holes can exist at all, you just jumped right to the pedantic.  Either a straw has one hole, or there is no such thing as holes.  That doesn't make the answer 0.

The answer is 1 or 2 depending on what you prefer.

(August 19, 2018 at 7:21 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(August 19, 2018 at 7:10 am)Aroura Wrote: [...]
So black holes are really giant misnomers to you, I suppose. [...]

Black holes ARE a misnomer. They are enormous celestial bodies with great mass and density, surrounded by empty space - that doesn't fit any definition of a "hole" I can think of.

Yeah I realized after I said it that wasn't a good example.   The rest of my argument still stands though.

Either a straw has one hole, or holes don't exist by BB's definition.

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This reminds me of that internet viral video of the guy trying to explain how fish aren't wet.

Actually you are right OP, after thinking about it, it can be 0, 1 or 2

(August 19, 2018 at 8:08 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Is this about felching?

I don't need a straw for that . . . .

(August 19, 2018 at 9:52 am)vorlon13 Wrote:

(August 19, 2018 at 8:08 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Is this about felching?

I don't need a straw for that . . . .

Then apparently you can roll your tongue.

(August 19, 2018 at 5:17 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(August 19, 2018 at 2:54 am)Joods Wrote: One continuous hole.

I think that is a great user name. I may change mine.

I dare you to do it. 😂😂😂😂