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RE: Eternal bliss
August 25, 2018 at 11:16 am
LR, you hijack and ruin every thread you touch.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 25, 2018 at 11:18 am
(August 25, 2018 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: LR, you hijack and ruin every thread you touch.
He can't help it. He's just NDEvolutionarily wired that way.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 25, 2018 at 8:55 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2018 at 8:57 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 25, 2018 at 10:03 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: (August 25, 2018 at 8:58 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: First I want to point out that if a Christian is only following Jesus in this life for the sole purpose of attaining paradise, he/she is probably going about it the wrong way. We should be following Jesus because Jesus is good, and we desire goodness for it's own sake. Even if Heaven didn't exist at all, as humans, most of us naturally have a certain attraction and admiration towards that which is good.
As for what the afterlife will be like, exactly, that I don't know. It is a matter of faith. But we can deduce that IF God does in fact exist, and if God truly is goodness and love, then being completely consumed within Him will be the ultimate fulfillment.
Why do you need to follow anyone to be good though? I don't, and I consider myself to be a good person. Why are we constantly reminded that Jesus died for us and we can be saved by following him? I thought that the promise of an afterlife and the avoidance of hell was the whole point of being Christian otherwise why bother?
If God actually exists, and is truly good, then all truly good people should be rewarded regardless of what they believe.
Well, if we think Christianity is true, then we should "bother" to follow it for that reason. Because we should seek and follow truth.
Yes, I do hope all people with truly good hearts will go to Heaven. Not my place to speculate, though.
(August 25, 2018 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: LR, you hijack and ruin every thread you touch.
Lol. Yes but only because people let him. I would just ignore completely.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 4:00 am
(August 25, 2018 at 8:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, if we think Christianity is true, then we should "bother" to follow it for that reason. Because we should seek and follow truth.
Even when there is a threat involved? If it was just a case of following because you think it's somehow a good way to live your life then fair enough, but it isn't is it? Christians want to be saved, Christians want others to be saved, live your life this way or else! And for what? Judging by the massive response to my original question from believers, nobody knows for what.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 4:15 am
Here's the latest Darkmatter vid which covers this subject!
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 4:22 am
(August 26, 2018 at 4:15 am)robvalue Wrote: Here's the latest Darkmatter vid which covers this subject!
LOL brilliant
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 9:22 am
(August 25, 2018 at 10:50 am)Kit Wrote: (August 25, 2018 at 10:47 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yes you did indeed.
By saying.................A false hope offering comfort is always more appealing to most people than the harsh reality of truth............you imply that you know what the truth is.
Take your time Kit.
Now LR goes to sleep so I can wait till tomorrow for you to put up or admit that you don't know what you are talking about.
Oh, did I?
Do you see any personal first person pronouns in that quote? No, you don't. That is because I did not make a claim.
Got it now?
That is extremely bizarre Kit.
You write things that are part of you but at the same time are not yours because you didn't say I.
Who you pretend to fool?
Certainly not me Kit.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 9:27 am
Awww fuck.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 9:40 am
Paradise should only be loved due it being understood it's a place of proximity to God and place where one increases in love of God:
The Commander of the Faithful said, 'The best thing in the Garden and the sweetest is love of Allah, love in Allah, and praise for Allah.' And Allah has said,
وَآخِرُ دَعْوَاهُمْ أَنِ الْحَمْدُ لِلّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
The last of their supplication shall be "Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds", (10:10)
because when they see the blessings that exist in the Garden, love is aroused in their hearts and then they call out, 'Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.'
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 26, 2018 at 9:41 am
(August 25, 2018 at 11:16 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: LR, you hijack and ruin every thread you touch.
I know LC, I know......it must be very hard to be unable to prove LR wrong.
Isn't it?
So the idea is to avoid him.
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