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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 1:33 am
(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications. Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.
(October 24, 2018 at 1:49 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 23, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Devout and Ordained. We are always welcome to converts
Thanks but no thanks.
Then sadly you will boil needlessly.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 3:46 pm
(October 24, 2018 at 11:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 24, 2018 at 5:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not quite that narrow. There have been 108 billion people that ever lived approximately (https://www.prb.org/howmanypeoplehaveeverlivedonearth/). Those are the lives I believe are counted.
Yet, sperm move, have intentionality, sense gravity (and swim against it); even understand when they cannot penetrate the egg. Why do I have a soul and sperm do not?
Because of your conscious.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 4:00 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 4:23 pm
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(October 25, 2018 at 3:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (October 24, 2018 at 11:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Yet, sperm move, have intentionality, sense gravity (and swim against it); even understand when they cannot penetrate the egg. Why do I have a soul and sperm do not?
Because of your conscious.
Lots of non human things possess a conscious. Do they also have souls? More fundamentally, why should some natural feature of your corporeal frame determine whether or not you have a soul? Do certain types of biology produce them as a consequence of consciousness, or something?
Even as an exercise in passive trolling..that was lazy.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm
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(October 25, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (October 25, 2018 at 3:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Because of your conscious.
Lots of non human things possess a conscious. Do they also have souls? More fundamentally, why should some natural feature of your corporeal frame determine whether or not you have a soul? Do certain types of biology produce them as a consequence of consciousness, or something?
Even as an exercise in passive trolling..that was lazy.
Hey Khemikal. How have you been? Its been a while.
Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 7:50 pm
(October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 8:06 pm
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(October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (October 25, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Lots of non human things possess a conscious. Do they also have souls? More fundamentally, why should some natural feature of your corporeal frame determine whether or not you have a soul? Do certain types of biology produce them as a consequence of consciousness, or something?
Even as an exercise in passive trolling..that was lazy.
Hey Khemikal. How have you been? Its been a while.
Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
That's nice. Do these animals have souls, likewise, because of their conscious? Is a soul a product of a specific biology?
Additionally...I'm assuming that non conscious things don't have souls and so can't be "saved". Things like trees and sperm, for example?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 9:43 pm
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(October 25, 2018 at 7:50 pm)Joods Wrote: (October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
It is like dividing by zero because it makes claims of eternity.
(October 25, 2018 at 8:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Hey Khemikal. How have you been? Its been a while.
Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
That's nice. Do these animals have souls, likewise, because of their conscious? Is a soul a product of a specific biology?
Additionally...I'm assuming that non conscious things don't have souls and so can't be "saved". Things like trees and sperm, for example?
Their conscious is a part of their soul. It is their spiritual being.
Maybe trees, plants, and the like can be reborn in eternity. I don't believe the Bible specifies but I can't see why not.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 10:06 pm
Here's how I know you don't have a soul.
Can your soul see anything ? No
Can it feel anything ? No
Smell, taste, hear ? No
Think ? No
If you are unconscious and you had some other kind of backup etheral mind / body connected to you, then you would be able to see and hear and experience all the things that this etheral soul can experience.
But you already know what happens when you are unconscious. Nothing. Zero. Devoid of experience.
Not even a thought.
And while you are unconscious, you have no way of determining whether or not you're dead.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 25, 2018 at 10:16 pm
Some other asshole just told me that things have souls because of consciousness, CDF. Which one of you is right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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