(December 21, 2018 at 8:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 21, 2018 at 8:25 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: America voted for Hillary Clinton by a margin of roughly 3 million votes.

Both wings -The Oligarchs and The Military Industrial Complex- are the same faces of the same coin.

Across history, they both did unspeakable things to serve their interest only, the only reason we are seeing their actions clearly now is that they are fighting each other: so they are exposing each other.

We all know that nobody cares about Kashoggi, or some 2000 dead brown Arabs in Syria, or some burned Kurds in a hospital. But these are sitting ducks if you want to expose somebody in the mainstream media. The crimes of the U.S led collation against ISIS is well known since it began -several news agencies reported-, also Yemen and the hell led by Saudi Arabia in there, but what made it come to the surface as "important news" other than the below-the belt-punches of the Military Industrial Complex to the Oligarchs?

If the elections of America was rigged to make Trump win, then it is very possible that previous elections were rigged too. But something happened this time and led one side to be angry, perhaps it is the Oligarchs' choice to make Trump -the traitor- run for presidency?

I have 12 yo relatives who reason better than you.

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I think he left because he is a monster who likes endless war and is upset at Donald Trump for wanting to withdraw troops from Syria. The talk is Turkey wants US troops put of Syria because they have been assisting the Kurds. Isn't it strange that he resigned just after the president said he wanted to withdraw those troops?

The USA has been raping Syria (they never asked to be violated) so I'm heartened to know that the troops and going home, even if it is for the wrong reasons. Now let's withdraw troops from all of the other pointless wars.

Donald Trump does not appear to understand that the defence contractors and industry lobbyists bribe many of people working in the national government. Of course Jim doesn't care about human beings. The money is too good make him care. There are plently of outrageous things that Donald Trump has done since entering the Oval Office but he choses to leave now? Highlh suspect to me.

Quote:I think he left because he is a monster who likes endless war

What is there about him that indicates this?

Boru

(December 21, 2018 at 9:49 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: I think he left because he is a monster who likes endless war and is upset at Donald Trump for wanting to withdraw troops from Syria. The talk is Turkey wants US troops put of Syria because they have been assisting the Kurds. Isn't it strange that he resigned just after the president said he wanted to withdraw those troops?

The USA has been raping Syria (they never asked to be violated) so I'm heartened to know that the troops and going home, even if it is for the wrong reasons. Now let's withdraw troops from all of the other pointless wars.

Donald Trump does not appear to understand that the defence contractors and industry lobbyists bribe many of people working in the national government. Of course Jim doesn't care about human beings. The money is too good make him care. There are plently of outrageous things that Donald Trump has done since entering the Oval Office but he choses to leave now? Highlh suspect to me.

No, this is nonsense. Global stability is never an either or proposition. It isn't 100% isolation, or 100% playing world police. You don't have to like 45 or even Mattis. But the reason he left was because the orange turd is not listening to anyone. He has constantly crapped all over our allies and kissed up to dictators.

Mattis isn't the problem. Trump is. While each president over decades of power change in party, may each have different approaches, our foreign policy is based on overlap in our intel, and that includes military intel, and those people serve under multiple administrations so you cant look at our Military, or FBI or any intel agency as like a building being sold and all the employees being fired. 

Transfer of power over long periods of time are not sudden shifts, and prior administrations inform the new ones as to what is going on. It is more like a batton in a relay race. This isn't as simple as you want to make it. The only argument to be had is who the President is and who is in congress. But what you cannot do is ignore that our intel and military are not politically monochromatic, they are not. Our military is full of democrats, republicans, independents, as well as our other agencies including our military. 

Policy is at the top, and there is overlap over long periods of time. The real argument to make is what 50 former Republican intel agents did in signing a letter warning America not to elect him, during his run.

(December 21, 2018 at 9:22 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(December 21, 2018 at 8:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Both wings -The Oligarchs and The Military Industrial Complex- are the same faces of the same coin.

Across history, they both did unspeakable things to serve their interest only, the only reason we are seeing their actions clearly now is that they are fighting each other: so they are exposing each other.

We all know that nobody cares about Kashoggi, or some 2000 dead brown Arabs in Syria, or some burned Kurds in a hospital. But these are sitting ducks if you want to expose somebody in the mainstream media. The crimes of the U.S led collation against ISIS is well known since it began -several news agencies reported-, also Yemen and the hell led by Saudi Arabia in there, but what made it come to the surface as "important news" other than the below-the belt-punches of the Military Industrial Complex to the Oligarchs?

If the elections of America was rigged to make Trump win, then it is very possible that previous elections were rigged too. But something happened this time and led one side to be angry, perhaps it is the Oligarchs' choice to make Trump -the traitor- run for presidency?

I have 12 yo relatives who reason better than you.

Thank you for admitting that the "shiny picture" of the U.S's "wonderful senate and Congress" where every politician is "united" behind the same "cause" is an image worthy of a 12 YO, who can't handle the real scene of the cockroaches lurking and eating chunks of the remaining ruins of U.S politics.

When cockroaches fight it's messy and disgusting, usually their fight is full of bug-bugs like ISIS flying around, and alliances with bug colonies like the Saudi bug colony which produces cockroaches that fly into buildings.

You just nailed the Atheist Forums prize for Most Incoherent Post. Well done!

Boru

(December 21, 2018 at 10:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 21, 2018 at 9:22 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I have 12 yo relatives who reason better than you.

Thank you for admitting that the "shiny picture" of the U.S's "wonderful senate and Congress" where every politician is "united" behind the same "cause" is an image worthy of a 12 YO, who can't handle the real scene of the cockroaches lurking and eating chunks of the remaining ruins of U.S politics.

When cockroaches fight it's messy and disgusting, usually their fight is full of bug-bugs like ISIS flying around, and alliances with bug colonies like the Saudi bug colony which produces cockroaches that fly into buildings.

I thought Muslims stayed away from hard drugs!

Quite fond of Bovril, actually. Very warming on cold nights.

Boru