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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 12:59 am
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(January 23, 2019 at 12:55 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: In the Americas whole races of people went extinct; the rest natives live -to this day- in small, scattered minorities.
In Islamic "spread"; the natives themselves convert. You mean the ones that lived, ofc...and under duress? Yeah..we did that too.
Quote:America is your counter "argument", which is really sad.
More sad for you than me, honestly. I'm not attempting mythologize my cultures past misdeeds into virtue. I have no problem accepting the historical fact that we've gotten into some nasty shit. You need to ask yourself why you have a compulsion to do otherwise. Why you feel the need to rehabilitate islams history in light of a western ethical view. Hell..this fuckin thread.. you even have a need to rehabilitate domestic violence...........
If the brutal conquest of the nascent islamic empire was as rosy as you imagined it to be, or if islam, in general... were....then why would you have to keep coming up with excuses and alternative histories for terrible islamic shit?
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 1:37 am
(January 23, 2019 at 12:59 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Quote:America is your counter "argument", which is really sad.
More sad for you than me, honestly. I'm not attempting mythologize my cultures past misdeeds into virtue. I have no problem accepting the historical fact that we've gotten into some nasty shit. You need to ask yourself why you have a compulsion to do otherwise. Why you feel the need to rehabilitate islams history in light of a western ethical view. Hell..this fuckin thread..you even have a need to rehabilitate domestic violence...........
If the brutal conquest of the nascent islamic empire was as rosy as you imagined it to be, or if islam, in general... were....then why would you have to keep coming up with excuses and alternative histories for terrible islamic shit?
No no no; what the conquestadors and the European colonists did was not "nasty shit"; it was the most hideous crime to ever take place across the history of mankind.
It wasn't just "nasty shit". It was a mark of shame on the consciousness of humanity as a specie, and Europe as a continent.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 8:38 am
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(January 23, 2019 at 1:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (January 23, 2019 at 12:59 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: More sad for you than me, honestly. I'm not attempting mythologize my cultures past misdeeds into virtue. I have no problem accepting the historical fact that we've gotten into some nasty shit. You need to ask yourself why you have a compulsion to do otherwise. Why you feel the need to rehabilitate islams history in light of a western ethical view. Hell..this fuckin thread..you even have a need to rehabilitate domestic violence...........
If the brutal conquest of the nascent islamic empire was as rosy as you imagined it to be, or if islam, in general... were....then why would you have to keep coming up with excuses and alternative histories for terrible islamic shit?
No no no; what the conquestadors and the European colonists did was not "nasty shit"; it was the most hideous crime to ever take place across the history of mankind.
It wasn't just "nasty shit". It was a mark of shame on the consciousness of humanity as a specie, and Europe as a continent.
Well..idk if it's the most hideous thing that ever took place..thats really stealing the limelight from alot of other nasty shit without due consideration..but if you say so. It would then stand to reason that the emergence of islam was hideous, and a shame to the subcontinent, for the same reasons.
Now, we see you routinely condemning the one while compulsively excusing the other. What that tells a person..is that you actually don't give a fuck about any of the "hideous" things you talk about - more that you enjoy blaming the great satan for things and making excuses for islam. Meh. 0/10, common islamic nutjob.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 5:47 pm
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(January 23, 2019 at 8:38 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: (January 23, 2019 at 1:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No no no; what the conquestadors and the European colonists did was not "nasty shit"; it was the most hideous crime to ever take place across the history of mankind.
It wasn't just "nasty shit". It was a mark of shame on the consciousness of humanity as a specie, and Europe as a continent.
Well..idk if it's the most hideous thing that ever took place..thats really stealing the limelight from alot of other nasty shit without due consideration..but if you say so. It would then stand to reason that the emergence of islam was hideous, and a shame to the subcontinent, for the same reasons.
Now, we see you routinely condemning the one while compulsively excusing the other. What that tells a person..is that you actually don't give a fuck about any of the "hideous" things you talk about - more that you enjoy blaming the great satan for things and making excuses for islam. Meh. 0/10, common islamic nutjob.
Yes it is the most hideous thing happened in the history of earth. It's a whole continent that got massacred in cold blood.
Distracting attention by pointing elsewhere when confronted with this hideous massacre does not wipe it or clean it.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 5:55 pm
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(January 23, 2019 at 5:47 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (January 23, 2019 at 8:38 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Well..idk if it's the most hideous thing that ever took place..thats really stealing the limelight from alot of other nasty shit without due consideration..but if you say so. It would then stand to reason that the emergence of islam was hideous, and a shame to the subcontinent, for the same reasons.
Now, we see you routinely condemning the one while compulsively excusing the other. What that tells a person..is that you actually don't give a fuck about any of the "hideous" things you talk about - more that you enjoy blaming the great satan for things and making excuses for islam. Meh. 0/10, common islamic nutjob.
Yes it is the most hideous thing happened in the history of earth. It's a whole continent that got massacred in cold blood.
Distracting attention by pointing elsewhere when confronted with this hideous massacre does not wipe it or clean it.
Like I said, IDK, we've gotten into plenty of nasty shit. Both as a country and as a species. I don't want to steal any other atrocity's thunder and don't have any particular reason to rank atroicitiy. It's enough for me to consider them all of a set........
...but if you think that distracting attention elsewhere when confronted with something like this is hideous..then, physician, heal thyself, and your great satan based islam excusing disorder.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 6:04 pm
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(January 23, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (January 23, 2019 at 5:47 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Yes it is the most hideous thing happened in the history of earth. It's a whole continent that got massacred in cold blood.
Distracting attention by pointing elsewhere when confronted with this hideous massacre does not wipe it or clean it.
Like I said, IDK, we've gotten into plenty of nasty shit. Both as a country and as a species. I don't want to steal any other atrocity's thunder and don't have any particular reason to rank atroicitiy. It's enough for me to consider them all of a set........
...but if you think that distracting attention elsewhere when confronted with something like this is hideous..then, physician, heal thyself, and your great satan based islam excusing disorder.
Still; that doesn't change the truth.
America's natives got ethnically cleansed by the Spanish Crown and European Colonists, exploiting the weakness of the natives and their lack of technological advances.
The natives' gold was stolen, their societies re-engineered, their souls wasted and ethnically cleansed, and literally a whole population of natives got murdered and a new engineered newborn came to life.
I can understand bugs doing that to other creatures, laying eggs in a living host, but I would never imagine humans doing that to other humans..it is the most hideous crime in the history of mankind.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 6:05 pm
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(January 23, 2019 at 6:04 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (January 23, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Like I said, IDK, we've gotten into plenty of nasty shit. Both as a country and as a species. I don't want to steal any other atrocity's thunder and don't have any particular reason to rank atroicitiy. It's enough for me to consider them all of a set........
...but if you think that distracting attention elsewhere when confronted with something like this is hideous..then, physician, heal thyself, and your great satan based islam excusing disorder.
Still; that doesn't change the truth.
America's natives got ethnically cleansed by the Spanish Crown and European Colonists, exploiting the weakness of the natives and their lack to technological advances. Yeah. So..uh, how is that you think the umma conquered, and what do you think they did once they were in control?
Quote:The natives' gold was stolen, their societies re-engineered, their souls wasted and ethnically cleansed, and literally a whole population of natives got murdered and a new engineered newborn came to life.
Yep. Getting the other guys stuff is usually the point..though.....most of the gold we pilfered wasn't anybodies just yet, and we snatched a hell of alot more silver - but here too we actually mined and refined it. It's a pretty crazy story, I wrote a massive post about it on the boards..I'll see if I can find it for you if you'd like? In the case of the north american genocide, however, gold wasn't really the aim..nor was societal re-engineering. Just extermination.
Quote:I can understand bugs doing that to other creatures, laying eggs in a living host, but I would never imagine humans doing that to other humans..it is the most hideous crime in the history of mankind.
-and yet we do, routinely. We did it here in north america, the umma did it in the middle east. We're just not very pleasant creatures when we get into a conquering mood.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 8:01 pm
Ivy PM'd me. She was my friend. We PM'd a lot. I can not remember what we said. I can't remember it the right way.
Hammy was arguing with some guy. We talked about EDM (hehehe Hammy) he liked Orbital a lot. I can't remember every Orbital song he played on youtube, but the one that was the most Industrial was my favorite
I remember the first time I tried to post a picture. Losty was trying to explain the best way to do this. I figured it out. Also another time I just copied and pasted it from one site tot this. I think we had a discussion about making me a mod at some point. I don't know if this would've been the best or worse thing ever. Being a mod I mean.
Now I remember not her name, but M.brcy had an argument about philosophy that I hope has ended. I was trying to take both sides. Whatever that name that you called please do not say that to each oth her
The first Roman ever
Romulus and Remus
The first Crazy Celt to say
Vae Victis
Woe to the defeated
The first Scandinavian ever who was just saying
HELL I'm trying to get away don't follow me through these mountain passes
That found some Frenchman
and I don't know how I found you
and bang bang yes God
and we had the first Norman
William the Conqueror?
Jesus Christ! I'm Mary Magdalene!
Stop trying to kill my husband! Jesus fucking Christ! Stop
Tears of blood.
Holy Shit! Let him die. I'm the best Roman ever. This spear has to kill him.
Abba, Allah.
I don't care who did it first. Just set the Goddamn boundary.
Anyway.
It is over! I absolve you of ever fucking sing you crazy goddamn bastards commited
Except one!!!
I couldn't log in!!
You can call me this now ^
Also, whatever I wanted to see in the Adult thread. It never happed gulp!
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 8:38 pm
(January 23, 2019 at 8:01 pm)The Industrial Atheist 2 Wrote: Ivy PM'd me. She was my friend. We PM'd a lot. I can not remember what we said. I can't remember it the right way.
Hammy was arguing with some guy. We talked about EDM (hehehe Hammy) he liked Orbital a lot. I can't remember every Orbital song he played on youtube, but the one that was the most Industrial was my favorite
I remember the first time I tried to post a picture. Losty was trying to explain the best way to do this. I figured it out. Also another time I just copied and pasted it from one site tot this. I think we had a discussion about making me a mod at some point. I don't know if this would've been the best or worse thing ever. Being a mod I mean.
Now I remember not her name, but M.brcy had an argument about philosophy that I hope has ended. I was trying to take both sides. Whatever that name that you called please do not say that to each oth her
The first Roman ever
Romulus and Remus
The first Crazy Celt to say
Vae Victis
Woe to the defeated
The first Scandinavian ever who was just saying
HELL I'm trying to get away don't follow me through these mountain passes
That found some Frenchman
and I don't know how I found you
and bang bang yes God
and we had the first Norman
William the Conqueror?
Jesus Christ! I'm Mary Magdalene!
Stop trying to kill my husband! Jesus fucking Christ! Stop
Tears of blood.
Holy Shit! Let him die. I'm the best Roman ever. This spear has to kill him.
Abba, Allah.
I don't care who did it first. Just set the Goddamn boundary.
Anyway.
It is over! I absolve you of ever fucking sing you crazy goddamn bastards commited
Except one!!!
I couldn't log in!!
You can call me this now ^
Also, whatever I wanted to see in the Adult thread. It never happed gulp!
We can merge you with your old account
We can also get you back in slack if you want
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 23, 2019 at 10:31 pm
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(January 23, 2019 at 6:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Quote:The natives' gold was stolen, their societies re-engineered, their souls wasted and ethnically cleansed, and literally a whole population of natives got murdered and a new engineered newborn came to life.
Yep. Getting the other guys stuff is usually the point..though.....most of the gold we pilfered wasn't anybodies just yet, and we snatched a hell of alot more silver - but here too we actually mined and refined it. It's a pretty crazy story, I wrote a massive post about it on the boards..I'll see if I can find it for you if you'd like? In the case of the north american genocide, however, gold wasn't really the aim..nor was societal re-engineering. Just extermination. Do you think it's natural and a humane thing to continue arguing with this Nazi Tu quoque approach after answering with "yep" ?
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