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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 25, 2019 at 10:28 pm
(January 25, 2019 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 7:47 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: The only way...the only way to prove that something is designed, is to demonstrate the designer. You cannot do that. Your “case” isn’t even a case. Your argument is not an argument; it’s a non-starter. 1,200 pages and we’re still waiting for you to present a positive case for ID. That thread title, man...nothing but empty promises and disappointment.
That is not the only way to demonstrate a designer. This is especially true for a designer who is measuring the hearts of His creatures as they live about their lives after being given clear instruction. The designer who's intent was to leave his signature buried in the DNA of living systems and then state in the Bible that the life of the flesh is in the blood.
I provided my case for the designer and it's bullet proof. From their I turn to theology and find the truths included in the Holy Scriptures.
(January 25, 2019 at 7:57 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: You.
Why do you dislike me so much? We simply disagree on this topic. It's an emotional topic but damn, relax a bit, like me. Have a cocktail, sit back, and enjoy the discussion.
There is no discussion. There is only a moron with grotesquely exaggerated view of the value of his own ramblings, and who is so presumptuous that he tried to force others to listen to precisely the same rambling over, and over, and over.
You case is not bullet proof, it is not even a case, claiming it to be bullet proof for the thousandth time only strengthens the case that you are a fanatical nut-jab.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 1:34 am
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(January 25, 2019 at 9:26 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That is not the only way to demonstrate a designer. This is especially true for a designer who is measuring the hearts of His creatures as they live about their lives after being given clear instruction. The designer who's intent was to leave his signature buried in the DNA of living systems and then state in the Bible that the life of the flesh is in the blood.
I provided my case for the designer and it's bullet proof. From their I turn to theology and find the truths included in the Holy Scriptures. If there was a designer who intended to do any of that, then that designer failed. You're really grinding gods nuts into the ground on this one.
Obviously, that's up to you, you can continue to believe in a god that failed, and find that you have to continue to present yourself as an idiot to satisfy that demand..or you can start to wonder if maybe, just maybe..this might be your own misunderstanding.
No, I believe in a perfect God who has already conquered this world living an absolute righteous life. Truly leading by example. Who else can claim that in this decrepit place? He lived sinless and died for our sins.
(January 25, 2019 at 9:35 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Quick question on design.
I have a blank canvas on the ground.
I have several different size sponges dipped in various colors of paint that are in a bucket on top of my roof.
I am blindfolded on my roof and I'm going to reach into the bucket and randomly pick a sponge to drop off the roof, in hopes that one or more will hit the canvas.
Did I design the painting ?
That's my question.
Yes and no. You designed the concept for the painting then let random chance take over on how it would turn out. So a planned concept without precise execution.
(January 25, 2019 at 10:28 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That is not the only way to demonstrate a designer. This is especially true for a designer who is measuring the hearts of His creatures as they live about their lives after being given clear instruction. The designer who's intent was to leave his signature buried in the DNA of living systems and then state in the Bible that the life of the flesh is in the blood.
I provided my case for the designer and it's bullet proof. From their I turn to theology and find the truths included in the Holy Scriptures.
Why do you dislike me so much? We simply disagree on this topic. It's an emotional topic but damn, relax a bit, like me. Have a cocktail, sit back, and enjoy the discussion.
There is no discussion. There is only a moron with grotesquely exaggerated view of the value of his own ramblings, and who is so presumptuous that he tried to force others to listen to precisely the same rambling over, and over, and over.
You case is not bullet proof, it is not even a case, claiming it to be bullet proof for the thousandth time only strengthens the case that you are a fanatical nut-jab.
It's not only bullet proof, it can with stand a nuclear strike no problem. It is fact!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 1:54 am
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It's not only bullet proof, it can with stand a nuclear strike no problem. It is fact!
I mean it's just obvious now, [1] Right? Or, for the sake of shits and giggles, are we going to drag this out for another 100 pages? Bless
Ramen.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 2:08 am
(January 26, 2019 at 1:54 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Quote:CD47
It's not only bullet proof, it can with stand a nuclear strike no problem. It is fact!
I mean it's just obvious now,[1] Right? Or, for the sake of shits and giggles, are we going to drag this out for another 100 pages? Bless
Ramen.
[1]
What's obvious?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 3:25 am
(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications. Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.
(January 26, 2019 at 2:08 am)CDF47 Wrote: (January 26, 2019 at 1:54 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I mean it's just obvious now,[1] Right? Or, for the sake of shits and giggles, are we going to drag this out for another 100 pages? Bless
Ramen.
[1]
What's obvious?
Oh, don't you worry about that my little simpleton. You just keep doing your thing. Bless.
RAmen
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 3:36 am
(January 26, 2019 at 1:34 am)CDF47 Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 9:26 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: If there was a designer who intended to do any of that, then that designer failed. You're really grinding gods nuts into the ground on this one.
Obviously, that's up to you, you can continue to believe in a god that failed, and find that you have to continue to present yourself as an idiot to satisfy that demand..or you can start to wonder if maybe, just maybe..this might be your own misunderstanding.
No, I believe in a perfect God who has already conquered this world living an absolute righteous life. Truly leading by example. Who else can claim that in this decrepit place? He lived sinless and died for our sins.
(January 25, 2019 at 9:35 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Quick question on design.
I have a blank canvas on the ground.
I have several different size sponges dipped in various colors of paint that are in a bucket on top of my roof.
I am blindfolded on my roof and I'm going to reach into the bucket and randomly pick a sponge to drop off the roof, in hopes that one or more will hit the canvas.
Did I design the painting ?
That's my question.
Yes and no. You designed the concept for the painting then let random chance take over on how it would turn out. So a planned concept without precise execution.
(January 25, 2019 at 10:28 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: There is no discussion. There is only a moron with grotesquely exaggerated view of the value of his own ramblings, and who is so presumptuous that he tried to force others to listen to precisely the same rambling over, and over, and over.
You case is not bullet proof, it is not even a case, claiming it to be bullet proof for the thousandth time only strengthens the case that you are a fanatical nut-jab.
It's not only bullet proof, it can with stand a nuclear strike no problem. It is fact!
Go fuck yourself in private.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 4:41 am
(January 25, 2019 at 2:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The information is not just complex, it is functional. There is a Designer, 100 percent.
Show us how it points to a designer. Simple things can lead to complexity, even functional complexity over time.
Show us the evidence for how a designer could have done it.
At the moment all you have is a argument from ignorance which has been pointed out since page one.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 7:30 am
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(January 26, 2019 at 1:34 am)CDF47 Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 9:26 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: If there was a designer who intended to do any of that, then that designer failed. You're really grinding gods nuts into the ground on this one.
Obviously, that's up to you, you can continue to believe in a god that failed, and find that you have to continue to present yourself as an idiot to satisfy that demand..or you can start to wonder if maybe, just maybe..this might be your own misunderstanding.
No, I believe in a perfect God who has already conquered this world living an absolute righteous life. Truly leading by example. Who else can claim that in this decrepit place? He lived sinless and died for our sins.
You act as if it's my problem that you have many contradictory beliefs? That theres some question I need to answer on account of your possessing them. It isn't, there isn't, work your shit out. If you want to believe in a perfect god who conquered the world or whatever the fuck silly thing you'll say next..then do so, and stop telling us about a failure of a god that didn't or couldn't manage to do what you say it intended.
Or, I guess(?) draw some happy middle, where "god" fucks up the whole "leaving evidence of his design" thing but sticks the landing by being put on a stick by some guys in red skirts. Whichever way you want to go with that, iron it out -before- you come here and worthlessly drop the articles of your faith on a bunch of people expecting them to defer to your confused rambling as fact.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 10:05 am
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(January 25, 2019 at 4:10 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 4:05 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: 
For what?
For repeatedly posting the same false claims and creationist nonsense after being refuted time and time again. If I was one of the administrators here, you would have been given the bum's rush a long time ago.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 26, 2019 at 11:04 am
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(January 26, 2019 at 4:41 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 2:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The information is not just complex, it is functional. There is a Designer, 100 percent.
Show us how it points to a designer. Simple things can lead to complexity, even functional complexity over time.
Show us the evidence for how a designer could have done it.
At the moment all you have is a argument from ignorance which has been pointed out since page one.
No, simple things do not lead to functional systems like this without a Designer's hand being involved.
(January 26, 2019 at 7:30 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: (January 26, 2019 at 1:34 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I believe in a perfect God who has already conquered this world living an absolute righteous life. Truly leading by example. Who else can claim that in this decrepit place? He lived sinless and died for our sins.
You act as if it's my problem that you have many contradictory beliefs? That theres some question I need to answer on account of your possessing them. It isn't, there isn't, work your shit out. If you want to believe in a perfect god who conquered the world or whatever the fuck silly thing you'll say next..then do so, and stop telling us about a failure of a god that didn't or couldn't manage to do what you say it intended.
Or, I guess(?) draw some happy middle, where "god" fucks up the whole "leaving evidence of his design" thing but sticks the landing by being put on a stick by some guys in red skirts. Whichever way you want to go with that, iron it out -before- you come here and worthlessly drop the articles of your faith on a bunch of people expecting them to defer to your confused rambling as fact.
I didn't ramble and none of what I said was confusing. It was clear and concise.
(January 26, 2019 at 10:05 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 4:10 pm)CDF47 Wrote: For what?
For repeatedly posting the same false claims and creationist nonsense after being refuted time and time again. If I was one of the administrators here, you would have been given the bum's rush a long time ago.
Things can get repetitive in a thread like this. New people come in that aren't familiar with the previous 1k pages so they ask the same questions sometimes or make the same comments. I have to respond even though it seems repetitive. Plus, my main point keeps getting pushed to the side for strawman arguments. So I have to repeat to clarify things.
These are not my problems, just the nature of a forums.
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