Technically, the early islamic expansion was the "illiterate society" plundering and reappropriating vast swaths of the literate world with an ancient history.

Qatari sociologist/scholar explains and imitates how to properly beat your wife in Islam. Reason to beat women is to show who is the boss

Perhaps this prick needs to learn what a kick in the balls feels like.

I have good, heavy motorcycle boots that will help.

(April 2, 2019 at 4:25 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps this prick needs to learn what a kuck in the balls feels like.

I have good, heavy motorcycle boots that will help.

Unfortunately it wouldn't work, Valk, when they're dealing with stronger women these Muslims help each other: they tie her up and one holds her so she can't defend herself while other one beats her.

(April 2, 2019 at 5:17 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(April 2, 2019 at 4:25 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps this prick needs to learn what a kuck in the balls feels like.

I have good, heavy motorcycle boots that will help.

Unfortunately it wouldn't work, Valk, when they're dealing with stronger women these Muslims help each other: they tie her up and one holds her so she can't defend herself while other one beats her.

Enough said about your intentions from the post.
How ignorant and xenophobic a person can get, really? seeing posts like yours make me understand where the likes of the NZ shooter got their ideas from.

So you cherry pick news like these, from isolated tribal areas in very poor regions of the Middle East, and use it to support your claims?

Buddy; these tribal people in the video -who happen to carry the Islamic belief just by name- do not represent me or the Muslims you see in NZ or the U.S.
It's like generalizing on all Americans by the actions of bearbellies.

This is xenophobic propaganda with cherry picking at its core.
I hope rightist ideas get refuted everyday.

Keep cherry picking; the tree will end soon.

(April 3, 2019 at 3:40 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(April 2, 2019 at 5:17 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Unfortunately it wouldn't work, Valk, when they're dealing with stronger women these Muslims help each other: they tie her up and one holds her so she can't defend herself while other one beats her.

Enough said about your intentions from the post

Are they not Muslims?

(April 2, 2019 at 4:25 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps this prick needs to learn what a kuck in the balls feels like.

I have good, heavy motorcycle boots that will help.

The law is non-existent in these regions.

Usually the governments of these places are corrupted to the core; so tribal regions are kept off-the radar unless there is a militia targeting the government.

The country in the video is probably Afghanistan or Pakistan. Look at their clothes, mostly Afghanistan.
It's not just a country witnessing a civil war; it's a country where the U.S and the Soviet Union fought in for decades with proxies; a whole world of countries intervene in it including super powers like China, NATO and others.

So it's expected for "extreme Jihadi thought" to spread in it; just like it was spread in Syria.

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(April 3, 2019 at 3:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(April 3, 2019 at 3:40 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Enough said about your intentions from the post

Are they not Muslims?

Do you take me for a fool or a child to expect me to reply with more than what I said?
My comment for you to read; again:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-56875-p...pid1897111

Quote:Enough said about your intentions from the post.
How ignorant and xenophobic a person can get, really? seeing posts like yours make me understand where the likes of the NZ shooter got their ideas from.

So you cherry pick news like these, from isolated tribal areas in very poor regions of the Middle East, and use it to support your claims?

Buddy; these tribal people in the video -who happen to carry the Islamic belief just by name- do not represent me or the Muslims you see in NZ or the U.S.
It's like generalizing on all Americans by the actions of bearbellies.

This is xenophobic propaganda with cherry picking at its core.
I hope rightist ideas get refuted everyday.

Keep cherry picking; the tree will end soon.

(April 3, 2019 at 3:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Usually the governments of these places are corrupted to the core; so tribal regions are kept off-the radar unless there is a militia targeting the government.

Yeah you're always blaming Muslims for being wrong fractions but you got to face the truth: Islam can not provide the secular constitutional framework necessary for running a modern state.

I mean even if you look at Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and compare it with Islamic Laws you can see how primitive Islam is.

I mean look at these acts from Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 2: “Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”
Article 3: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

While in Islam Women are inferior under Islamic law; their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted; they cannot marry non-Muslims.

Non-Muslims living in Muslim countries have inferior status under Islamic law; they may not testify against a Muslim. And your despised Saudi Arabia is just following a tradition of Muhammad who said, “Two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia,” non-Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build churches, possess Bibles, etc.

Grow the fuck up Atlass! It's not these people themselves but teachings of Islam that corrupt them.

Slavery is recognized in the Koran. Muslims are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves (sura 4.3); they are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves (sura 4.28). The helpless position of the slave in regard to his or her master illustrates the helpless position of the false gods of Arabia in the presence of their Creator (sura 16.77).

(April 3, 2019 at 3:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: How ignorant and xenophobic a person can get, really?

You should ask yourself that question because while I do salute to Muslims that don't beat women, those that do beat them are not doing anything outside Islamic code of conduct. Islam treats women as intellectually, morally, and physically inferior. Muslims that don't beat women and treat them like slaves are doing that in spite of Koran.

Even Muslim conception of marriage has nothing in common with the idea of association, partnership, or companionship between the married couple. And also polygamy in which husband is not exclusively reserved for one woman while woman must be to one man.

I mean look at this part of Koran where wives are described to be sex slaves
“Happy now the believers, humble in their prayers, shunning vain conversation, paying the poor-due, and who restrain their appetites except with their wives or the slaves whom their right hands possess: for in that case they shall be free from blame.”(suras 23.1, 5, 6)

At the time, the islamic slave trade was a bit different than others.  They didn't have the sort of labor shortage endemic to other societies, while they did employ slave labor most of the need was satisfied by free men.  So, islamic slavers specialized in global sex trafficking, as this was permitted, and wildly profitable.

(April 3, 2019 at 5:01 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(April 3, 2019 at 3:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Usually the governments of these places are corrupted to the core; so tribal regions are kept off-the radar unless there is a militia targeting the government.

Yeah you're always blaming Muslims for being wrong fractions but you got to face the truth: Islam can not provide the secular constitutional framework necessary for running a modern state.

I mean even if you look at Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and compare it with Islamic Laws you can see how primitive Islam is.

Which Islam?
Specify the sect; please.

Quote:I mean look at these acts from Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 2: “Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”

The Quran said so -and its followers fought hordes of Kuffar for 1400 years- to make this a reality, the Quran:

Quote:Sura 3, The Quran:
https://quran.com/3/195?translations=

Sahih International

(195) And their Lord responded to them, "Never will I allow to be lost the work of [any] worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another. So those who emigrated or were evicted from their homes or were harmed in My cause or fought or were killed - I will surely remove from them their misdeeds, and I will surely admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow as reward from Allah, and Allah has with Him the best reward."

"Their Lord" = Allah. He is our lord.
Actually; we Muslims knew the word human rights in times where people were getting cooked alive in Europe for defying kings.

Quote:Article 3: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

This is what Muslims said for centuries, and got fought viciously for saying so, the Quran says:

Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2/256?translations=

Sahih International

(256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

Quote:While in Islam Women are inferior under Islamic law; their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted; they cannot marry non-Muslims.

You were answered in previous post. I will not repeat myself

Quote:Non-Muslims living in Muslim countries have inferior status under Islamic law; they may not testify against a Muslim. And your despised Saudi Arabia is just following a tradition of Muhammad who said, “Two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia,” non-Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build churches, possess Bibles, etc.

No. I'm despised in Saudi Arabia for tribal reasons mainly. Currently it is very welcomed in the kingdom to drink alcohol and have sex openly, under the rule of MBS.
If the forum rules allow it, I would've posted twitter links that show the amount of sexual activity especially the female sexual activity in the kingdom.

Quote:Grow the fuck up Atlass! It's not these people themselves but teachings of Islam that corrupt them.

It depends on the version of Islam you choose; and what tribalism + Middle Eastern habits you toss with it. It's a mixture enough to cause  stuff like 9/11.

Quote: Slavery is recognized in the Koran. Muslims are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves (sura 4.3); they are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves (sura 4.28). The helpless position of the slave in regard to his or her master illustrates the helpless position of the false gods of Arabia in the presence of their Creator (sura 16.77).

Cherry picking that was answered millions of times on these boards.
The first verse didn't even contain the word "slave" neither in English nor in Arabic.

The second  verse doesn't even speak about women  !!!!

Quote:https://quran.com/4/28?translations=20
Sura 4, The Quran:

(28) And Allah wants to lighten for you [your difficulties]; and mankind was created weak.

You're not serious. Please come back when you have something serious to say.