(May 5, 2019 at 12:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yeah what about “Homophobic Bigot” Franklin Graham? When is he going to be banned from social media?

Hopefully never.  I don't think they should have banned the other three.

Boru

(May 5, 2019 at 11:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2019 at 10:43 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: What antisemitic statements has he made? I want quotes.

'Satanic Jews have infected the whole world with poison and deceit.'

'Powerful Jews are my enemy.'

'Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behavior that Hollywood is putting out, turning men into women and women into men.'

'It is now becoming apparent that there were many Israelis and Zionist Jews in key roles in the 9/11 attacks.  Israelis had foreknowledge of the attacks...  We know that many Jews received a text message not to come to work on September 11'

'White people running Mexico are Mexican-Jews.'

'The Jews have control over those agencies of government.  When you want something in this world, the Jew holds the door.'

'And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you.'

'I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite.'

Boru

*emphasis mine*

He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black... Explain how one can be antisemitic against someone who is a gentile posing as a jew?

"And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen..." - Deuteronomy 28:68

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon." - Song of Solomon 1:5

"...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." - Luke 21:24

Quote:He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black...

Which is what makes him an idiot.  His brand of Afrocentrism is, without doubt, discredited. He likes to claim that Jews were black as a way of demonizing all non-blacks generally.  His entire goal with this nonsense isn't just to support and recognize African contributions to world civilization (a position I agree with), but to marginalize the contributions of all non-Africans.

This is racism, pure and simple.

Boru

Quote:He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black... Explain how one can be antisemitic against someone who is a gentile posing as a jew?

So he's ignorant and racist

That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

(May 5, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

Spot on.  David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are flip sides of the same racist coin.  They're both despicable.

Boru

(May 5, 2019 at 4:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black...

Which is what makes him an idiot.  His brand of Afrocentrism is, without doubt, discredited. He likes to claim that Jews were black as a way of demonizing all non-blacks generally.  His entire goal with this nonsense isn't just to support and recognize African contributions to world civilization (a position I agree with), but to marginalize the contributions of all non-Africans.

This is racism, pure and simple.

Boru

Discredited by who? Is not Old Testament scripture Jewish literature? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that states "I am black, but comely"? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that stated as a punishment for disobedience that the Hebrews would be brought back to slavery in ships? Then there's the fact that Moses and Paul were both mistaken for being Egyptian, and even Josephs own brothers didn't recognize him among the Egyptians.

Then there's the fact Israel has the second highest skin cancer rate (behind Australia) which is nature way of telling you that they aren't native to that land.
Israel's Skin Cancer Rate Second Highest in the World

I could go on, but my point is, there is plenty of scriptural evidence that the Jews were black people. My question to you is who debunked it?

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(May 5, 2019 at 5:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 5, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

Spot on.  David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are flip sides of the same racist coin.  They're both despicable.

Boru

Really? How many people has the NOI killed?

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(May 5, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

Ok, then who are they claiming to be the real Jews?

(May 5, 2019 at 5:58 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(May 5, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

Ok, then who are they claiming to be the real Jews?

And....Smuggy is here cause the amount of melanin in a person's skin is a topic near and dear to him. But he's not racist.....noooooo….not a bit. Just ask him.

(May 5, 2019 at 5:58 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(May 5, 2019 at 4:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Which is what makes him an idiot.  His brand of Afrocentrism is, without doubt, discredited. He likes to claim that Jews were black as a way of demonizing all non-blacks generally.  His entire goal with this nonsense isn't just to support and recognize African contributions to world civilization (a position I agree with), but to marginalize the contributions of all non-Africans.

This is racism, pure and simple.

Boru

Discredited by who? Is not Old Testament scripture Jewish literature? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that states "I am black, but comely"? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that stated as a punishment for disobedience that the Hebrews would be brought back to slavery in ships? Then there's the fact that Moses and Paul were both mistaken for being Egyptian, and even Josephs own brothers didn't recognize him among the Egyptians.

Then there's the fact Israel has the second highest skin cancer rate (behind Australia) which is nature way of telling you that they aren't native to that land.
Israel's Skin Cancer Rate Second Highest in the World

I could go on, but my point is, there is plenty of scriptural evidence that the Jews were black people. My question to you is who debunked it?

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(May 5, 2019 at 5:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Spot on.  David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are flip sides of the same racist coin.  They're both despicable.

Boru

Really? How many people has the NOI killed?

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(May 5, 2019 at 5:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That's the same thing KKK people are saying about Jews: that they're not antisemitic because these Jews today are not real Jews.

Ok, then who are they claiming to be the real Jews?

1. The Hebrew word translated 'black' can mean 'black', 'dark', 'tanned' and (sometimes) 'tawny'.  Since the speaker mentions having been put to work in the vineyards, 'tanned' is the most likely interpretation.  Furthermore, the speaker is addressing 'O, ye daughters of Jerusalem!', thus implying that the people of Jerusalem were fair skinned (fairer than the speaker, at any rate).

2.  People other than those with dark skin have been enslaved.  That Hebrews were enslaved doesn't really bolster the case for Afrocentrism.

3.  If Moses, Paul and Joseph were unrecognized among the Egyptians, the most likely answer is that Egyptians weren't black.  Current thinking is that skin tones varied pretty widely.

4.  Your information on skin cancer rates is out of date.   

https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cance...statistics

5.  You're wrong. There is NO scriptural evidence that Jews were black.

6.  I highly recommend 'We Can't Go Home Again', by Clarence E. Walker.  He pretty much demolishes Afrocentrism as a pseudohistorical load of garbage.  Lots of others have contributed to debunking the notion, but Walker is particularly erudite and readable.

7.  I don't know how many people the Nation of Islam have killed, but that's not my point.

Boru