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[brewer]

True Jew = Black, got it.

Fake Jew =/= Not Black. OK

Farrakhan hates Fake Jews. (per Huggy)

Farrakhan = Racist.

[vulcanlogician]

'Satanic Jews have infected the whole world with poison and deceit.'

'Powerful Jews are my enemy.'

'Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behavior that Hollywood is putting out, turning men into women and women into men.'

'It is now becoming apparent that there were many Israelis and Zionist Jews in key roles in the 9/11 attacks.  Israelis had foreknowledge of the attacks...  We know that many Jews received a text message not to come to work on September 11'

'White people running Mexico are Mexican-Jews.'

'The Jews have control over those agencies of government.  When you want something in this world, the Jew holds the door.'

'And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you.'

'I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite.'

Boru

*emphasis mine*

He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black... Explain how one can be antisemitic against someone who is a gentile posing as a jew?

"And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen..." - Deuteronomy 28:68

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon." - Song of Solomon 1:5

"...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." - Luke 21:24

But claiming that the Jews are fake doesn't make him any less anti-semitic. If anything, it makes him more so.

[Huggy Bear]

True Jew = Black, got it.

Fake Jew =/= Not Black. OK

Farrakhan hates Fake Jews. (per Huggy)

Farrakhan = Racist.

I like how people who's ancestors immigrated here to benefit off of the economy built off the backs of slave labor, and then turn around and act as if they have some moral high ground.

I'm going to provide a list, and you tell me which one that black people are guilty of, if you can't, then there is no comparative racism.

1. Chattel slavery for hundreds of years

2. Rape and murder with impunity

3. Segregation


4. Jim Crow

5. Redlining

6. Gerrymandering

[Fireball]

Selling their fellow Africans into slavery.

My ancestors migrated to the new world after slavery was abolished. I carry no genetic guilt for enslavement of any humans. We all lived in the north part of the US or Canada, so no riding the backs of blacks. Your brush is too broad. Back to ignoring you (I don't use the ignore button, because sometimes something really stupid surfaces and catches my eye- good job!).

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

True Jew = Black, got it.

Fake Jew =/= Not Black. OK

Farrakhan hates Fake Jews. (per Huggy)

Farrakhan = Racist.

I like how people who's ancestors immigrated here to benefit off of the economy built off the backs of slave labor, and then turn around and act as if they have some moral high ground.

I'm going to provide a list, and you tell me which one that black people are guilty of, if you can't, then there is no comparative racism.

1. Chattel slavery for hundreds of years

2. Rape and murder with impunity

3. Segregation


4. Jim Crow

5. Redlining

6. Gerrymandering

But these only apply to acts of racism, not to racism itself.  It is perfectly possible for someone to hold and espouse racist ideas (we generally refers to these people as 'morons') and never commit a racist act.

But the fact that Louis Farrakhan's ancestors were likely held as slaves and were definitely discriminated against doesn't get him a pass for his racism.  If he wants to rail against racists, fine.  If he wants to use his bully pulpit to decry and demand the end of institutionalized racism, I'm on his side.  Be when he defines all non-blacks as somehow inferior, he is - by definition - a racist.

Furthermore, your question challenge is screwy - no one here is accusing all black people of racism.  If you are maintaining the position that, because black Americans aren't guilty of any of the things on your list they can't possibly be racists, you're kidding yourself. 

Boru

[Huggy Bear]

Discredited by who? Is not Old Testament scripture Jewish literature? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that states "I am black, but comely"? Did I not quote Old Testament scripture that stated as a punishment for disobedience that the Hebrews would be brought back to slavery in ships? Then there's the fact that Moses and Paul were both mistaken for being Egyptian, and even Josephs own brothers didn't recognize him among the Egyptians.

Then there's the fact Israel has the second highest skin cancer rate (behind Australia) which is nature way of telling you that they aren't native to that land.
Israel's Skin Cancer Rate Second Highest in the World

I could go on, but my point is, there is plenty of scriptural evidence that the Jews were black people. My question to you is who debunked it?

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Really? How many people has the NOI killed?

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Ok, then who are they claiming to be the real Jews?

1. The Hebrew word translated 'black' can mean 'black', 'dark', 'tanned' and (sometimes) 'tawny'.  Since the speaker mentions having been put to work in the vineyards, 'tanned' is the most likely interpretation.  Furthermore, the speaker is addressing 'O, ye daughters of Jerusalem!', thus implying that the people of Jerusalem were fair skinned (fairer than the speaker, at any rate).

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7838.htm

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2.  People other than those with dark skin have been enslaved.  That Hebrews were enslaved doesn't really bolster the case for Afrocentrism.

The transatlantic slave trade was the only one where a specific race of people were targeted and transported by ship, hence "the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships". Egypt was synonymous with slavery, when they left Egypt, they left on foot, they wouldn't need ships to go back.

3.  If Moses, Paul and Joseph were unrecognized among the Egyptians, the most likely answer is that Egyptians weren't black.  Current thinking is that skin tones varied pretty widely.

That's what you'd call revisionist history.

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from the Zondervan bible dictionary

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It makes a clear distinction that Negroes (old school word for African-Americans) may look like the other 'dark' races but aren't of the same bloodline.

4.  Your information on skin cancer rates is out of date.   

https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cance...statistics

You totally missed the point...
https://www.jta.org/2017/08/03/lifestyle...o-avoid-it

Just 10 years ago, Israel had one of the highest melanoma rates worldwide. But then came better education about the dangers of sun exposure and an effort to test thousands of women for BRCA mutations and alert them if they have heightened risk for the disease. That effort, funded in part by the Israel Cancer Research Fund, has helped bring Israel’s melanoma rate down to 18th in the world.

My point was, the sun was killing people that were supposedly native to that region of the world, which makes absolutely no sense. implementing methods to lower skin cancer risk has no bearing on the previous fact.

5.  You're wrong. There is NO scriptural evidence that Jews were black.

You mean besides the scriptures I already discussed?

It is clear that Moses had a black wife... "And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman." - Numbers 12:1.

Also explain this one.
Acts 8:26-28

26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

Why is an Ethiopian going to Jerusalem to worship and reading Jewish literature

6.  I highly recommend 'We Can't Go Home Again', by Clarence E. Walker.  He pretty much demolishes Afrocentrism as a pseudohistorical load of garbage.  Lots of others have contributed to debunking the notion, but Walker is particularly erudite and readable.

Don't have time to read it for the purposes if this discussion, but I highly doubt the author is saying what you think he says.

7.  I don't know how many people the Nation of Islam have killed, but that's not my point.

Boru

That was your point actually...

Spot on. David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are flip sides of the same racist coin. They're both despicable.

Boru

you're literally comparing the history and ideologies of the NOI with the KKK and have the nerve to say that they are two sides of the same coin, so again, how many people have the NOI terrorized?

[brewer]

True Jew = Black, got it.

Fake Jew =/= Not Black. OK

Farrakhan hates Fake Jews. (per Huggy)

Farrakhan = Racist.

I like how people who's ancestors immigrated here to benefit off of the economy built off the backs of slave labor, and then turn around and act as if they have some moral high ground.

I'm going to provide a list, and you tell me which one that black people are guilty of, if you can't, then there is no comparative racism.

1. Chattel slavery for hundreds of years

2. Rape and murder with impunity

3. Segregation


4. Jim Crow

5. Redlining

6. Gerrymandering

Yeah, those all suck. But don't think for a moment I don't see the side step you just took. 

If he wants to be racist because of the past, then he can be a racist. But I don't need to see or listen to it. He shot himself in the foot. Be careful not to shoot your own.

[Shell B]

What do my ancestors morals have to do with mine? None of my ancestors were slave owners, and I would know. My sister's a genealogist. That said, even if they were, I'm definitely better than a Jew-hating douche in terms of morals.

[Huggy Bear]

Selling their fellow Africans into slavery.

My ancestors migrated to the new world after slavery was abolished. I carry no genetic guilt for enslavement of any humans. We all lived in the north part of the US or Canada, so no riding the backs of blacks. Your brush is too broad. Back to ignoring you (I don't use the ignore button, because sometimes something really stupid surfaces and catches my eye- good job!).

Slavery existed in the North AND Canada...

Your ancestors migrated here to benefit off of the ill gotten gains produced through slave labor, because obviously where ever they came from wasn't poppin and if not for slavery America wouldn't have been poppin either.

[brewer]

The Nebraska plains were poppin, good one.