Slavery isn't happening anymore (in this context). No one is responsible for their ancestors.

The same could be said about the US political parties. None of them are constituted as they were even one hundred years ago.

Yeah, the Republicans really fucked that up.

(May 6, 2019 at 7:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(May 6, 2019 at 5:42 pm)Fireball Wrote: Selling their fellow Africans into slavery.

My ancestors migrated to the new world after slavery was abolished. I carry no genetic guilt for enslavement of any humans. We all lived in the north part of the US or Canada, so no riding the backs of blacks. Your brush is too broad. Back to ignoring you (I don't use the ignore button, because sometimes something really stupid surfaces and catches my eye- good job!).

Slavery existed in the North AND Canada...

Your ancestors migrated here to benefit off of the  ill gotten gains produced through slave labor, because obviously where ever they came from wasn't poppin and if not for slavery America wouldn't have been poppin either.

   Fuxxake. Give me your PayPal address and I'll send you a dollar to buy a clue. I'll no longer set foot in your eight dimensions of racist anxiety. Fuggin' troll, stickin' it to the atheist...uh man.

lol. Is Bear claiming that when slavers came to Africa to hunt down Bantu people that those Bantu people were running around with their Toras in their hands and yarmulkes on their heads?

(May 7, 2019 at 12:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: lol. Is Bear claiming that when slavers came to Africa to hunt down Bantu people that those Bantu people were running around with their Toras in their hands and yarmulkes on their heads?

Yeah, even assuming that the ancient Israelites were, in fact, black (dark skinned, definitely, but given the nature of the current non-Jewish residents of the area, black may be overstating it), Africa is home to literally THOUSANDS of ethnic groups across the entire continent. To conflate the Israelites and the ethnic groups (largely Western
African) that were actually taken from Africa to eventually become the present-day African-Americans, like Farrakhan does is shockingly lazy. It makes good music if you’re using it as a metaphor, but in a literal historical context, it’s
lazy.





It's like a native of Barcelona claiming to have been from St. Petersburg even though he was born in Barcelona, never left Spain, and as far as his geneology could tell, none of his ancestors left Spain in the hundreds of years the records have been recorded.

And even if you assume that the Ashkenazi Jews of today aren't actually Jews and that this somehow makes them fair game for the sort of shit Farrakhan spews (which is more obviously bullshit), the fact remains that, whether or not you think they're True Jews, they are what society thinks of as Jews, and they make up the majority of the Jewish population, and even if Farrakhan is truly keeping the definitions straight and excluding the 150,000 Ethiopian Jews from his ramblings, bigotry is bigotry. And just because he knows what it is to be discriminated against does not indemnify him from being as bad as the racists he should, in theory, despise. And even though I think the Power Plus Prejudice Paradigm is Pedantic, Punifying, and Potentially Poisonous (if Philosophically Philanthropic) Pap even at the best of times, it especially doesn't work when he's targeting, not the majority group that kept his people down for close to four centuries now, but a minority that's spent most of their recorded history fearing for their lives.

(May 6, 2019 at 1:33 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(May 5, 2019 at 4:13 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: *emphasis mine*

He's not against Jews, he's against the "fake Jews", it's Farrakhan's position that the real Jews were black... Explain how one can be antisemitic against someone who is a gentile posing as a jew?

"And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen..." - Deuteronomy 28:68

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon." - Song of Solomon 1:5

"...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." - Luke 21:24

But claiming that the Jews are fake doesn't make him any less anti-semitic. If anything, it makes him more so.

Is not the Bible Jewish literature? If so, then what do yo say to this...

But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. -  Amos 5:26

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. - Acts 7:43


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remphan

Quote:Remphan (hrem-'fan) is a satanic image. St. Stephen mentions Remphan as "the star of your god whose images you made to worship" in Acts 7:43 (King James version)

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - Revelation 3:9

^^^^
I think we broke Huggy.

(May 7, 2019 at 9:05 am)wyzas Wrote: ^^^^
I think we broke Huggy.

I don't think we deserve the honor. He came already broken in the head.

(May 7, 2019 at 9:24 am)LastPoet Wrote:

(May 7, 2019 at 9:05 am)wyzas Wrote: ^^^^
I think we broke Huggy.

I don't think we deserve the honor. He came already broken in the head.

Your name is no longer orange......