Quote:and if it were me, I would see death as merciful.

It's probably easier to see it that way when it isn't you, Allie.

(October 13, 2011 at 12:35 am)Phaedra Wrote: I strongly oppose it. I think it is barbaric and antiquated.

I give you thumbs up now that I know what you mean..and you are aware of the reality of the situation...

(October 13, 2011 at 10:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I give you thumbs up now that I know what you mean..and you are aware of the reality of the situation...

It is not a decision I arrived at lightly. I used to support it. And I totally understand why people are in favor of it.

(October 13, 2011 at 10:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:and if it were me, I would see death as merciful.

It's probably easier to see it that way when it isn't you, Allie.

Thats the big argument..what if it is you...and you are innocent

Lets focus on that one

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(October 13, 2011 at 10:39 pm)Phaedra Wrote:

(October 13, 2011 at 10:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I give you thumbs up now that I know what you mean..and you are aware of the reality of the situation...

It is not a decision I arrived at lightly. I used to support it. And I totally understand why people are in favor of it.

Thats the same position I am now in. I am well aware of both sides of the argument now, and i oppose it

I'll go with the odds there. Psychos and sociopaths need to be removed from society utterly. There is no rehab, and putting them in boxes does not compute.

(October 13, 2011 at 10:47 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I'll go with the odds there. Psychos and sociopaths need to be removed from society utterly. There is no rehab, and putting them in boxes does not compute.

So you are willing to die for your support of the death penalty in this situation?

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-pe...tate-safer

Quote:In a statement, Gov. Richardson cited the 130 inmates freed from death row since 1973 and added, "The sad truth is the wrong person can still be convicted in this day and age, and in cases where that conviction carries with it the ultimate sanction, we must have ultimate confidence, I would say certitude, that the system is without flaw or prejudice. Unfortunately, this is demonstrably not the case."

One "mistake" would be a crime against humanity. 130 such mistakes would be unconscionable for a civilized nation - which fortunately we are not.

(October 13, 2011 at 10:47 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I'll go with the odds there. Psychos and sociopaths need to be removed from society utterly. There is no rehab, and putting them in boxes does not compute.

Why not?

If you lose a family member to one. I spent too long locking up guys who beat their wives almost to death every couple of months, maybe. If a person kills three people premeditatively, and does so with absolute disregard for their humanity, mine is gone for that person. This is not a case in which doubt exists. Burn the motherfuckers alive.

I'm not afraid to die. I once told a man with a gun to my head that he was a pussy if he didn't do it. Mainly because it was in a crowded IHOP, and I was 60% sure he wouldn't, but many considered it to be a reckless move on my part. If my death would insure the extinction of those whom can't be rehabilitated, I would die for it. What's my life compared to the lives of my children who might one day fall victim to a sociopath? Nothing. I don't just feel that way about my own kids, but all the good and harmless people in the world.

I've lived an interesting, amazing life. I'm not afraid to die, especially for a good cause. The only tragedy would be if I hadn't finished writing my memoir.

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(October 13, 2011 at 10:50 pm)Phaedra Wrote:

(October 13, 2011 at 10:47 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I'll go with the odds there. Psychos and sociopaths need to be removed from society utterly. There is no rehab, and putting them in boxes does not compute.

Why not?

Because good people have to pay for the boxes.