(August 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: There is a lot of clamoring about guns and suicide in the US.

Does having a gun increase your chances of committing suicide?

Consider - other " first world nations".

Japan - has about 30,000 suicides a year - and none by firearm.

Israel has hundreds of suicide on an average year - and gun ownership ( including "assault rifles") is commonplace.

Hmmmm…

I thought you were in favor of gun ownership?

(August 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Japan - has about 30,000 suicides a year - and none by firearm.

Does that mean that guns don't contribute to the suicide rate? No. It just means the culture it different there.

(August 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: There is a lot of clamoring about guns and suicide in the US.

Does having a gun increase your chances of committing suicide?

Consider - other " first world nations".

Japan - has about 30,000 suicides a year - and none by firearm.

Israel has hundreds of suicide on an average year - and gun ownership ( including "assault rifles") is commonplace.

Hmmmm...

If a man in Tokyo, Japan walks due south in an attempt to reach Auckland, NZ, he'll drown before he gets there.

Boru

(August 8, 2019 at 4:53 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 4:42 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Lol.

For some perspective....there’s no telling how many people attempt to commit suicide a year, in Japan.  If the numbers here are representative of numbers there (or even close) it’s 25 to 1.

So, take that number if 30k, multiply it by 25, and then ask yourself what portion of those suicide attempts could have succeeded if access to firearms in Japan were similar to access here.

Then, remind yourself of the more tolerant view of suicide in Japan compared to the us.

- I’m not telling you that you have to give a shit, or that those lives, however many there are, are “worth it”. -  only making sure that it’s blisteringly obvious that the number would be greater than zero.......lol.

Uh. The Wall Street Journal just did a piece. They gave the number of zero suicides by firearm. That's not surprising considering how few firearms there are there. But - it seems the Japanese are inventive enough to figure out a way.

If firearms increased the number of suicides - Israel would lead Japan in suicide because of the easy access to firearms.

But it doesn't.

You realized that Japan has a population about 14x the size of Israel, right?

Boru

(August 8, 2019 at 5:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: There is a lot of clamoring about guns and suicide in the US.

Does having a gun increase your chances of committing suicide?

Consider - other " first world nations".

Japan - has about 30,000 suicides a year - and none by firearm.

Israel has hundreds of suicide on an average year - and gun ownership ( including "assault rifles") is commonplace.

Hmmmm…

I thought you were in favor of gun ownership?

" What' s your boggle citizen?" - Demolition Man

(August 8, 2019 at 6:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 4:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: There is a lot of clamoring about guns and suicide in the US.

Does having a gun increase your chances of committing suicide?

Consider - other " first world nations".

Japan - has about 30,000 suicides a year - and none by firearm.

Israel has hundreds of suicide on an average year - and gun ownership ( including "assault rifles") is commonplace.

Hmmmm...

If a man in Tokyo, Japan walks due south in an attempt to reach Auckland, NZ, he'll drown before he gets there.

Boru

Well, periodically, not according to Google maps.   Google Maps sometimes will put little Easter eggs in its directions, including asking the user to swim an ocean when asked to provide direction from one continent to another.

(August 8, 2019 at 6:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 4:53 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Uh. The Wall Street Journal just did a piece. They gave the number of zero suicides by firearm. That's not surprising considering how few firearms there are there. But - it seems the Japanese are inventive enough to figure out a way.

If firearms increased the number of suicides - Israel would lead Japan in suicide because of the easy access to firearms.

But it doesn't.

You realized that Japan has a population about 14x the size of Israel, right?

Boru

Don' t math much?

14x350 = 4900.

Still far short of 30,000.

(August 8, 2019 at 6:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If a man in Tokyo, Japan walks due south in an attempt to reach Auckland, NZ, he'll drown before he gets there.

Boru

Well, periodically, not according to Google maps.   Google Maps sometimes will put little Easter eggs in its directions, including asking the user to swim an ocean when asked to provide direction from one continent to another.

You should learn better reading skills.

Boru

(August 8, 2019 at 6:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Well, periodically, not according to Google maps.   Google Maps sometimes will put little Easter eggs in its directions, including asking the user to swim an ocean when asked to provide direction from one continent to another.

You should learn better reading skills.

Boru

You should be grateful that I condescended to respond when you post.   It’s just pure rude overreach to imply I should read and respond to your post.

(August 8, 2019 at 6:34 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2019 at 6:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You should learn better reading skills.

Boru

You should be grateful that I condescended to respond when you post.   It’s just pure rude overreach to imply I should read and respond to your post.

Oh, but I am ever so grateful when you do.  Honestly, nothing perks me up like logging in here and find that you've taken some of your no doubt valuable time to respond to my posts.  I mean, all that condescension, word-twisting and just plain getting things wrong must be exhausting for you.

I humbly apologize for not having made clear earlier how much I value the effort you put into making a jumped-up jackass out of yourself and using my posts as a springboard to do so.

Boru