(August 12, 2019 at 10:12 pm)Acrobat Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 9:46 pm)Grandizer Wrote: The property of the pizza that makes me perceive it as tasty is of the pizza, the perception is from me as a form of response.

Good here is just another way of saying it’s tasty. We acknowledge that meaning of good here is subjective rather that objective. It’s something said about the subject rather than the object. Good expresses something about you, and not the pizza.

This shouldn’t be something that we should be disagreeing on, particularly when we both readily acknowledge that we’re talking about something subjectively good here.

You might not understand what this has to do with the objective goodness of morality just yet, but you shouldn’t be so resistant to acknowledging the nature of a subjective good.

(August 12, 2019 at 10:15 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 10:12 pm)Acrobat Wrote: Good here is just another way of saying it’s tasty. We acknowledge that meaning of good here is subjective rather that objective. It’s something said about  the subject rather than the object. Good expresses something about you, and not the pizza.

This shouldn’t be something that we should be disagreeing on, particularly when we both readily acknowledge that we’re talking about something subjectively good here.

You might not understand what this has to do with the objective goodness of morality just yet, but you shouldn’t be so resistant to acknowledging the nature of a subjective good.

Resistant?

I'm just telling how I see it, lol.

I majored in psychology, so perhaps that has fostered in me the kind of thinking I'm expressing here. I don't see good in the same way you do anyway, so the question really doesn't make sense anyway.

Where is the good? The good isn't really anywhere. It's abstract.

(August 12, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Acrobat Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 10:15 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Resistant?

I'm just telling how I see it, lol.

I majored in psychology, so perhaps that has fostered in me the kind of thinking I'm expressing here. I don't see good in the same way you do anyway, so the question really doesn't make sense anyway.

Where is the good? The good isn't really anywhere. It's abstract.

Okay if good isn’t anywhere, then you acknowledge that it’s not in the pizza, it’s not in well-being, or in what’s conducive to well being, perhaps you might say the same of bad as well, that it’s not in anywhere, it’s not in harm.

Is that right?

(August 12, 2019 at 10:26 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Acrobat Wrote: Okay if good isn’t anywhere, then you acknowledge that it’s not in the pizza, it’s not in well-being, or in what’s  conducive to well being, perhaps you might say the same of bad as well, that it’s not in anywhere, it’s not in harm.

Is that right?

I see good acts, bad acts, good tasting pizzas, bad tasting ones.

I've never seen the good or the bad though.

Abstracts do not exist apart from the physical, or as their own thing floating about.

(August 12, 2019 at 10:30 pm)Acrobat Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 10:26 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I see good acts, bad acts, good tasting pizzas, bad tasting ones.

I've never seen the good or the bad though.

Abstracts do not exist apart from the physical, or as their own thing floating about.

So what is it, earlier you claimed that good isn’t anywhere, now you seem to suggest it can be a part of some physical things? That sounds to me like a contradiction. If it’s not anywhere, than it can’t be in some physical things.

(August 12, 2019 at 9:31 pm)Acrobat Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 8:16 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Epistemologically, Acrobat isn't wrong here. Sometimes we don't need to deliberate on whether something is right or wrong in order to intuit it. But that's not what's being asked of him.

If X is just good, then that's still X is good because of something about X

Let’s ask this of a subjective good, like dominos pizza is good, where dominos pizza is x. Let’s introduce a y as well which stands for my taste buds.

Is good here something about x, or good here something about y?

Perhaps you recognize in this example that good is really about y, good is description of my likes.

Your not going to find the “good” in the pizza, it’s located in me, in this example of a subjective good. Do you agree?

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(August 12, 2019 at 9:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You said that was how “someone here might answer it”. It wasn’t your answer.

If it was my answer, would that have been an adequate response? This is the type of response you were looking for? Am I correct?

(August 12, 2019 at 11:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Complex compound property, like health.  

Health is nowhere.  It’s not a thing you can touch, but it’s real and natural all the same.  We’ve already been over this multiple times in multiple threads, Acro.

Looking like a hard no on you ever unclogging your ears.  What kind of monumental piece of shit has “discussions” like this?

(August 12, 2019 at 11:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(August 12, 2019 at 11:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Complex compound property, like health.  

Health is nowhere.  It’s not a thing you can touch, but it’s real and natural all the same.  We’ve already been over this multiple times in multiple threads, Acro.

Looking like a hard no on you ever unclogging your ears.  What kind of monumental piece of shit has “discussions” like this?

A fucking troll is all I can figure. Acro will go down in AF history as the guy who doesn’t get why it’s bad to torture babies.That’s some reputation to have following you around for net-ternity.