How to easily defeat any argument for God

[GrandizerII]

The property of the pizza that makes me perceive it as tasty is of the pizza, the perception is from me as a form of response.

Good here is just another way of saying it’s tasty. We acknowledge that meaning of good here is subjective rather that objective. It’s something said about the subject rather than the object. Good expresses something about you, and not the pizza.

This shouldn’t be something that we should be disagreeing on, particularly when we both readily acknowledge that we’re talking about something subjectively good here.

You might not understand what this has to do with the objective goodness of morality just yet, but you shouldn’t be so resistant to acknowledging the nature of a subjective good.

Resistant?

I'm just telling how I see it, lol.

I majored in psychology, so perhaps that has fostered in me the kind of thinking I'm expressing here. I don't see good in the same way you do anyway, so the question really doesn't make sense anyway.

Where is the good? The good isn't really anywhere. It's abstract.

[Acrobat]

Good here is just another way of saying it’s tasty. We acknowledge that meaning of good here is subjective rather that objective. It’s something said about  the subject rather than the object. Good expresses something about you, and not the pizza.

This shouldn’t be something that we should be disagreeing on, particularly when we both readily acknowledge that we’re talking about something subjectively good here.

You might not understand what this has to do with the objective goodness of morality just yet, but you shouldn’t be so resistant to acknowledging the nature of a subjective good.

Resistant?

I'm just telling how I see it, lol.

I majored in psychology, so perhaps that has fostered in me the kind of thinking I'm expressing here. I don't see good in the same way you do anyway, so the question really doesn't make sense anyway.

Where is the good? The good isn't really anywhere. It's abstract.

Okay if good isn’t anywhere, then you acknowledge that it’s not in the pizza, it’s not in well-being, or in what’s conducive to well being, perhaps you might say the same of bad as well, that it’s not in anywhere, it’s not in harm.

Is that right?

[GrandizerII]

Resistant?

I'm just telling how I see it, lol.

I majored in psychology, so perhaps that has fostered in me the kind of thinking I'm expressing here. I don't see good in the same way you do anyway, so the question really doesn't make sense anyway.

Where is the good? The good isn't really anywhere. It's abstract.

Okay if good isn’t anywhere, then you acknowledge that it’s not in the pizza, it’s not in well-being, or in what’s conducive to well being, perhaps you might say the same of bad as well, that it’s not in anywhere, it’s not in harm.

Is that right?

I see good acts, bad acts, good tasting pizzas, bad tasting ones.

I've never seen the good or the bad though.

Abstracts do not exist apart from the physical, or as their own thing floating about.

If you're asking what is that makes a pizza taste good? It's something about the pizza that triggers my mind to favor it (based on conditioning and prior experience).

[Acrobat]

Okay if good isn’t anywhere, then you acknowledge that it’s not in the pizza, it’s not in well-being, or in what’s  conducive to well being, perhaps you might say the same of bad as well, that it’s not in anywhere, it’s not in harm.

Is that right?

I see good acts, bad acts, good tasting pizzas, bad tasting ones.

I've never seen the good or the bad though.

Abstracts do not exist apart from the physical, or as their own thing floating about.

So what is it, earlier you claimed that good isn’t anywhere, now you seem to suggest it can be a part of some physical things? That sounds to me like a contradiction. If it’s not anywhere, than it can’t be in some physical things.

[GrandizerII]

I see good acts, bad acts, good tasting pizzas, bad tasting ones.

I've never seen the good or the bad though.

Abstracts do not exist apart from the physical, or as their own thing floating about.

So what is it, earlier you claimed that good isn’t anywhere, now you seem to suggest it can be a part of some physical things? That sounds to me like a contradiction. If it’s not anywhere, than it can’t be in some physical things.

It's not in any physical thing. We have things that we perceive as good or bad. We have things that are tall and short and stout and thin, it does not mean therefore that we have the tall, the short, the stout, etc.

[The Grand Nudger]

Complex compound property, like health.

Health is nowhere. It’s not a thing you can touch, but it’s real and natural all the same. We’ve already been over this multiple times in multiple threads, Acro.

Looking like a hard no on you ever unclogging your ears. What kind of monumental piece of shit has “discussions” like this?

What does your arbitrary and subjective divine morality have to say on the matter?

[LadyForCamus]

Epistemologically, Acrobat isn't wrong here. Sometimes we don't need to deliberate on whether something is right or wrong in order to intuit it. But that's not what's being asked of him.

If X is just good, then that's still X is good because of something about X

Let’s ask this of a subjective good, like dominos pizza is good, where dominos pizza is x. Let’s introduce a y as well which stands for my taste buds.

Is good here something about x, or good here something about y?

Perhaps you recognize in this example that good is really about y, good is description of my likes.

Your not going to find the “good” in the pizza, it’s located in me, in this example of a subjective good. Do you agree?

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You said that was how “someone here might answer it”. It wasn’t your answer.

If it was my answer, would that have been an adequate response? This is the type of response you were looking for? Am I correct?

Omg, dude. For real? How long are we going to do this dance? I’m not looking for you to say what I think is “correct” or “adequate,” you lying cretin. I want to know what you think. You have one more shot at a straightforward and honest answer, and then I’m done with you.

[LadyForCamus]

Complex compound property, like health.  

Health is nowhere.  It’s not a thing you can touch, but it’s real and natural all the same.  We’ve already been over this multiple times in multiple threads, Acro.

Looking like a hard no on you ever unclogging your ears.  What kind of monumental piece of shit has “discussions” like this?

A fucking troll is all I can figure. Acro will go down in AF history as the guy who doesn’t know why torturing babies is bad. Nay; he’ll be known as the guy who’d rather be known as the guy who doesn’t know why torturing babies is bad, than be known as the Christian who admits there are reasons why torturing babies is bad that have nothing to do with a god. That’s some reputation to have following you around for net-ternity.

[The Valkyrie]

Complex compound property, like health.  

Health is nowhere.  It’s not a thing you can touch, but it’s real and natural all the same.  We’ve already been over this multiple times in multiple threads, Acro.

Looking like a hard no on you ever unclogging your ears.  What kind of monumental piece of shit has “discussions” like this?

A fucking troll is all I can figure. Acro will go down in AF history as the guy who doesn’t get why it’s bad to torture babies.That’s some reputation to have following you around for net-ternity.

Will someone please explain it to me, too?

[The Grand Nudger]

The legal fees are enormous, Valk.