(August 19, 2019 at 4:42 pm)Lek Wrote: The situation isn't good, but you're over blowing it. you're painting people who are trying to do the best they can as Nazis and people in unsanitary conditions as Nazi prisoners.

That's the internet for ya.

First guy to run outta arguement resorts to "you're a Nazi".

Except on the skinhead boards.

Heh..

Quote:he situation isn't good, but you're over blowing it. you're painting people who are trying to do the best they can as Nazis

Nope were painting people who are doing anything but as what they are 

Quote:and people in unsanitary conditions as Nazi prisoners.

And people being kept in awful conditions on purpose as prisoners.

Quote:First guy who has all the arguments  rightly calls out  the Nazi only to be met with a screeching horde of "stop calling the Nazi a Nazi that's mean and it hurts their feelings  

There fixed that for you

(August 19, 2019 at 3:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Believe in the past life sort of thing, do ya?

I guess anything goes at that point.



I just believe you got nothing but insults.

That's all racism really deserves tbh.

(August 16, 2019 at 1:03 pm)Lek Wrote: As for conditions for detainees, they are bad, but you try walking in the shoes of those trying to deal with the situation; thousands flowing in every day.  They're totally overwhelmed.

The current *crisis* on the amercan-mexican boder is not nearly as bad as the 2016 syrian refugee crisis that hit Germany (and Europe as whole, yet 50% of all refugees targeted Germany). Try to google how Germany dealt with the problem, google pics of the camps and conditions and how *overwhelmed* german authorities were. Then come back and tell me how overwhelmed the US authorities are.

Just a quick comparison:
US/Ger population factor is 320/80=4
GDP: at least 5/1
Area to put brown people in (aka. territory): 100000000/1
Size of governmental forces like Army, National Guard, etc. to assist: Im not even bothering to look that up.

Peak number of Brown people hitting the US border (apprehended) from the south 2019: 750k (currently, since last October), probably 900k until October 2019. Numbers taken from
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Peak number of brown people hitting german border in 2016: 750k, taken from Statista
Factor: 1/1


The brown people are living in such conditions have to do so for one single reason: Because the US doesnt care to improve the situation.

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(August 17, 2019 at 12:40 pm)Lek Wrote: I thought atheists were all for presenting hard evidence. Where is your evidence for these wild accusations?  I only detect hatred  spewing out.

Then you are thinking wrong. Atheists are all for not accepting specific god claims.

(August 19, 2019 at 4:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 19, 2019 at 4:05 pm)Lek Wrote: "Overwhelmed" means having to deal with a situation that exceeds your resources.  When I was stationed at a particular Air Force Base, there was a huge flood in the area and thousands had to evacuate their homes.  We opened up buildings on the base to accept evacuees.  They were pouring in and we didn't have the resources to provide them with toothbrushes and soap, etc. as they came in.  After a while we were able to provide these things, but we didn't have hundreds or thousands of new people coming in every day.

I'm well aware of what 'overwhelmed' means, tyvm.  I just said it doesn't excuse being an accessory.

To be clear, I don't blame border patrol agents for the deplorable sanitary conditions at the camps.  I blame them for being part of a system to allows and encourages these conditions to continue.  That being said, I do blame the agents for the rapes, and for the physical and psychological abuses at the camps.

'Just following orders' didn't work in 1946 and it doesn't work today.

Boru

Funny enough Nazi apologists have tried using the "overwhelmed " excuse to get the Nazi's off the hook for the awful conditions of their camps .

So you believe that the border patrol is responsible for the conditions in the detention centers? Should they quit or become more vocal about it? I was of the impression that they were doing the best they could.

Quote:So you believe that the border patrol is responsible for the conditions in the detention centers?

Portions of it absolutely 

Quote:Should they quit or become more vocal about it?

Weather they should or not they will not 

Quote:I was of the impression that they were doing the best they could.

They are not

How do you know?

(August 19, 2019 at 6:53 pm)Lek Wrote: How do you know?

Ahh pulling bikers nonsense. Predictable