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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 6, 2019 at 12:30 pm
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(November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Yeah, and taxation is irrelevant (like most things you say) to your original point of "capitalism = no social programs = big growth, and vice versa", which i refuted by pointing out Germanys economic model of post 1945 This model included low taxes. Which, once again, is completely irrelevant (at best, it even refutes it) to defend your original claim that social expenses in an economy hinder its growth.
(November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You also claimed that China has an economic growth rate of 9,4% on average (without telling for which timeframe), which i showed to be untrue by pointing out that Chinas growth rate is under 10% and sinking for at least 10y. I explained to you that low growth of world economy is caused by global financial crisis. You explained nothing, like usual, you just posted a wiki link to the crisis, without telling anything. Yet its only a cheap excuse for your original false claim about Chinas growth.
First you claim that China does grow at a certian rate, then you excuse (and silently admit to) actual lower growth with the global crisis. Please stop insulting our intellect.
(November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You also kept being silent after me pointing out that big growth is quite easy to achieve when you start of from a pretty low economic standard. Brasil has same GDP per capita as China but their growth rate is 1% for last 10 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/brazil/gdp-growth More irrelevancies?! 
Do you even remember what your original point was? Do you even fucking care?
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 6, 2019 at 3:00 pm
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(November 3, 2019 at 7:51 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (November 3, 2019 at 7:10 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Socialism isn't motivated by racism but Trump is. Socialism is motivated by hate of succesful hard working people and idiocy.
Communism doesn't work anywhere. Scandinavian system doesn't work anywhere outside of Scandinavia.
All other developed countries have income inequality similiar to US.
Socialism at its core is every one working for the good of all. Its about a more equal society. You do know that occasionally we have a socialist government in the UK and it works really really well.
Socialism brought in the NHS, state pensions and unemployment benefit paid for by taxes how they should be.
(November 6, 2019 at 3:44 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (November 6, 2019 at 3:26 am)Deesse23 Wrote: For the record: I was born in the 60s and am an inhabitant of Baden-Württemberg, so i had to chuckle a bit when someone like you tries to teach me stuff about ...my own country. I'm teaching you about your economic model not your country. It's totally ok because most people in western countries have no idea how their economies work.
Well you are a good example of economic ignorance.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 6, 2019 at 5:00 pm
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Quote:In a speech in Lexington, Kentucky, on Monday night, Trump - who won Kentucky by 30 percentage points in 2016 - told voters that they needed to re-elect Bevin, or else pundits would say the president “suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world.”
Well...not quite. Kentucky has, reliably, sent blue lawmakers to the office. WEeve voted in every election since the beginning. It was actually a turnaround when rednecks..who have had bombs dropped on them in living memory....sent a red candidate anywhere. Good for us, we who don't vote, having given up. Less than 30% of the populace votes, in any given year. An still. with systemic voter suppresion at play and the russian turtle as our rep....we booted conservatism out like the garbage it is.
Maybe we'll get some fuckin dental again, huh?
The Red side has contested..because maybe a bunch of kentucky mexicans voted..or whatever. Go fuck yourselves.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 4:28 am
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(November 6, 2019 at 12:30 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: This model included low taxes. Which, once again, is completely irrelevant (at best, it even refutes it) to defend your original claim that social expenses in an economy hinder its growth. Why did German government cut taxes? Just for fun?
Quote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: I explained to you that low growth of world economy is caused by global financial crisis.
You explained nothing, like usual, you just posted a wiki link to the crisis, without telling anything. Yet its only a cheap excuse for your original false claim about Chinas growth. Any economist will tell you that global slowdown is caused by 2008 crisis.
Quote: (November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Brasil has same GDP per capita as China but their growth rate is 1% for last 10 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/brazil/gdp-growth
More irrelevancies?!
Do you even remember what your original point was? Do you even fucking care? Your claim was that it's easy for poor countries to grow fast. I provided you example of two equally poor countries with vastly different long term growth rates.
(November 6, 2019 at 3:00 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 3, 2019 at 7:51 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Socialism is motivated by hate of succesful hard working people and idiocy.
Communism doesn't work anywhere. Scandinavian system doesn't work anywhere outside of Scandinavia.
All other developed countries have income inequality similiar to US.
Socialism at its core is every one working for the good of all. It doesn't work in real life.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 2:07 pm
(November 7, 2019 at 4:28 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(November 6, 2019 at 3:00 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Socialism at its core is every one working for the good of all. It doesn't work in real life.
Yes it does.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 2:15 pm
(November 7, 2019 at 2:07 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 7, 2019 at 4:28 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
It doesn't work in real life.
Yes it does.
I’m under the impression that arguments with Dmitry will end up like the discussion on life of Brian,
“Okay, so apart from weekends off, a fair wage, public holidays, public health services, and all those other good things, what has socialism ever done for us?!”
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 2:15 pm
(November 7, 2019 at 2:07 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 7, 2019 at 4:28 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
It doesn't work in real life.
Yes it does.
Unbridled capitalism is what leads to crashes time and again.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 7, 2019 at 10:41 pm
Yeah, The Trump Foundation is 100% crooked, while the Clinton Foundation got A ratings.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
November 8, 2019 at 1:57 am
(November 7, 2019 at 2:07 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 7, 2019 at 4:28 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
It doesn't work in real life.
Yes it does.
Nope. USSR collapsed. North Korea is starving. Scandinavian system doesn't work anywhere outside of Scandinavia.
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