(December 17, 2019 at 2:56 pm)NightHawk Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'd be riled up over it as well.

Boru

While I don't condone vandalism I think it is quite silly for someone to act all surprised when this sort of thing happens. It's kind of asking for it. You should have seen some of the comments though. Lots of Nazi apologists in them. I think it's funny how the right claims they are not racists, yet they are always the one's to come to the defense of idiots like this.

You're confusing me.  To which idiots are you referring - the one exercising free speech in a manner you disagree with, or the people who trespassed on his property to deface and destroy other property?

Boru

(December 17, 2019 at 4:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 17, 2019 at 2:56 pm)NightHawk Wrote: While I don't condone vandalism I think it is quite silly for someone to act all surprised when this sort of thing happens. It's kind of asking for it. You should have seen some of the comments though. Lots of Nazi apologists in them. I think it's funny how the right claims they are not racists, yet they are always the one's to come to the defense of idiots like this.

You're confusing me.  To which idiots are you referring - the one exercising free speech in a manner you disagree with, or the people who trespassed on his property to deface and destroy other property?

Boru

The latter are just silly.

You can effectively burn down someone’s house without trespassing.



So I’m told...

Quote: the one exercising free speech in a manner you disagree with, or the people who trespassed on his property to deface and destroy other property?

Boru

Th one promoting racism and dehumanization of other people

When am I able to start making my own posts. I am having a serious problem and need help

(December 17, 2019 at 6:09 pm)jackemenot Wrote: When am I able to start making my own posts. I am having a serious problem and need help

You just did make your own posts.  If you mean when can you start a thread, the answer is 'immediately'.

Not for nothing, but if you're in serious need of help, an internet message board might not be the first place you want to go.

Boru

(December 17, 2019 at 6:01 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote: the one exercising free speech in a manner you disagree with, or the people who trespassed on his property to deface and destroy other property?

Boru

Th one promoting racism and dehumanization of other people

No doubt he's a racist, dehumanizing douche nozzle, but that's not reason enough to destroy his property.

'...if there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other, it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.' - Holmes

Boru

Quote: but that's not reason enough to destroy his property.

When is it enough then 

Quote:'...if there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other, it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.' - Holmes

I'm afraid bigots and Neo Fascists don't much care about the Constitution oh they will use it as a shield.But if they ever came to power they would take it away from you in a heart beat and it will result in far worst then a few vandalized signs .

But we can agree to disagree and courtesy they won't afford you .

Just to be clear...some asshole decided to make every other persons morning view shit, and we think that it's somehow untoward to make that assholes view shit?

You can think about swastikas without painting them explicitly for other people to see. Covering your walls and ceiling with nazi bric a brac is kosher - covering the outside of your home with nazi bric a brac is a comically explicit threat to other people. Peoples inalienable right to say (and paint. I suppose) fucked up shit should never come before another persons right to life. This obsession with Freeze Peach that we currently have isn't anything other than a suicide pact.

I know, I know..it's just some paint, and it was his property, it should be illegal to fuck with it (and it is). Won't stop people from doing it...and when we assess their individual motivations and merit for defacing the nazi shit that some other cockmuncher defaced the planet with......when we decide to be "riled up".....are we considering whether there's anything in human experience that might suggest that the propagation of nazi iconography and ideology is a credible threat to the lives of other people?

Any history buffs wanna weigh in on that riddle?

People are protesting to impeach Trump in
New York City, New York
Denver, Colorado
Detroit, Michigan
San Antonio, Texas

This is a nationwide movement.

(December 18, 2019 at 12:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Just to be clear...some asshole decided to make every other persons morning view shit, and we think that it's somehow untoward to make that assholes view shit?

You can think about swastikas without painting them explicitly for other people to see.  Covering your walls and ceiling with nazi bric a brac is kosher - covering the outside of your home with nazi bric a brac is a comically explicit threat to other people.  Peoples inalienable right to say (and paint. I suppose) fucked up shit should never come before another persons right to life.  This obsession with Freeze Peach that we currently have isn't anything other than a suicide pact.

I know, I know..it's just some paint, and it was his property, it should be illegal to fuck with it (and it is).  Won't stop people from doing it...and when we assess their individual motivations and merit for defacing the nazi shit that some other cockmuncher defaced the planet with......when we decide to be "riled up".....are we considering whether there's anything in human experience that might suggest that the propagation of nazi iconography and ideology is a credible threat to the lives of other people?

Any history buffs wanna weigh in on that riddle?

If you condone vandalistic vigilantism as a proper response to Nazi iconography, where does it stop?  Does it give the extreme right a pass to vandalize portraits of Obama or Mandela (both of whom were accused - however laughably - or being 'a credible threat to the lives of other people')?  Does it allow the snatching of MAGA hats and the destruction of 'Vote Trump' yard signs?

I'm not saying that this man's right to express his racist, Nazi rubbish shouldn't be limited - of course it should.  I agree completely that it IS an explicit threat to the lives of other people.  But how to address it is a matter for the courts and the police, not for Community Watch types who happen to have access to spray paint.

Boru