The Senate of Republicans still have to vote, whenever that is, and I am not too optimistic on a vote of guilty.

(December 19, 2019 at 10:05 am)Fierce Wrote: The Senate of Republicans still have to vote, whenever that is, and I am not too optimistic on a vote of guilty.

The results will be 55 no, 45 yes. +/- 2 votes.


To remove him from office you need 66 votes yes.


Do the math.

Traitors gotta do treason, it sort of defines who and what they are. I suppose that people are hoping that there's some floor of decency or patriotism that a few reds might not drop below...

-but I think that they been digging a basement under that floor for some time now.

(December 19, 2019 at 10:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(December 19, 2019 at 10:05 am)Fierce Wrote: The Senate of Republicans still have to vote, whenever that is, and I am not too optimistic on a vote of guilty.

The results will be 55 no, 45 yes. +/- 2 votes.


To remove him from office you need 66 votes yes.


Do the math.

I was never good at math.

Clarify?

(December 19, 2019 at 10:15 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Traitors gotta do treason, it sort of defines who and what they are.  I suppose that people are hoping that there's some floor of decency or patriotism that a few reds might not drop below...

-but I think that they been digging a basement under that floor for some time now.

Ya don't think your opinion has a BIT of bias?

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(December 19, 2019 at 10:17 am)Fierce Wrote:

(December 19, 2019 at 10:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The results will be 55 no, 45 yes. +/- 2 votes.


To remove him from office you need 66 votes yes.


Do the math.

I was never good at math.  

Clarify?

He isn't getting thrown out.


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Of course wildly improbable events do happen.


He got elected (by the EC) didn't he?

(December 19, 2019 at 10:17 am)onlinebiker Wrote: He isn't getting thrown out.


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Of course wildly improbable events do happen.


He got elected (by the EC) didn't he?

As I had thought. I never celebrate good news on the front of an extra step where the repubs remain

Good!

No way should we let this treasonous cantankerous dipshit get away with his crimes simply because his party will do everything in their power to make sure their orange messiah gets by with it.

(December 19, 2019 at 10:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(December 19, 2019 at 10:05 am)Fierce Wrote: The Senate of Republicans still have to vote, whenever that is, and I am not too optimistic on a vote of guilty.

The results will be 55 no, 45 yes. +/- 2 votes.


To remove him from office you need 66 votes yes.


Do the math.

But here's the kicker:  It takes a 2/3 majority (67, not 66) of the members present.  So, if you could convince, say, 30 Republican senators to stay home, Democrats could oust him with room to spare.

Since the chief Republican talking point is that the whole impeachment process is a sham, they should stick to their principles and not even show up for the vote. Right?  Right?

Boru

(December 19, 2019 at 11:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 19, 2019 at 10:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The results will be 55 no, 45 yes. +/- 2 votes.


To remove him from office you need 66 votes yes.


Do the math.

But here's the kicker:  It takes a 2/3 majority (67, not 66) of the members present.  So, if you could convince, say, 30 Republican senators to stay home, Democrats could oust him with room to spare.

Since the chief Republican talking point is that the whole impeachment process is a sham, they should stick to their principles and not even show up for the vote. Right?  Right?

Boru

Gotta admit - that's the kind of "logic" that got us this far........

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Perhaps you will have better luck with "Impeachment V2.0" in February......

Edit to add --- or even more fun -- A TIE!!

Then when Mike Pence makes the deciding vote - the losing side (either one) can whine about the results up til November - then we can start the whole thing over!


Such fun.

(December 19, 2019 at 9:55 am)onlinebiker Wrote: So it was really important to do something that ultimately won't matter.........

Interesting priorities.

I felt the same way at first, but I've come to realize that it IS important to impeach a judge or president for impeachable offenses even when you can't remove them from office because of one party's opposition.

McConnell is in an unenviable position: he can't afford the appearance of impartiality because he won't be reelected if the president turns on him, but without an appearance of impartiality required by the oath senators take when acting as jurors in an impeachment, he endangers the slim majority Republicans hold in the senate.

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(December 18, 2019 at 10:31 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: He's still in power, It's already DOA and it hasn't even technically hit the senate yet, He'll get reelected out of spite.

But sure, whoop

He needs the Independents to win reelection, his base by itself isn't enough. With 54% of the nation supporting Trump's impeachment, he clearly doesn't have the Independent vote. He's never been a president for all Americans.

But I never would have thought he would be nominated or elected in the first place, particularly by a country that elected and reelected Obama; so I won't be particularly surprised if he pulls it off again.