(April 7, 2020 at 7:46 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 7:39 am)ignoramus Wrote: The Koran, like the bible are just books with words in them.
Arguing about Darth Vader isn't going to make him real, is it? No matter how many books there are...

The real question should be, why on earth do you still believe in fairy tales?
Time to grow up matey...
I promise the boogey man won't get you when you die. The worms usually get first choice...

I prove that the Qur'an is the word of God.

By using a larger font?

What don't you prove it the way Christians prove the bible, by typing in all caps?

Charts?!  I love charts!

(April 7, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I saw that the last example turned out to be yet another example of you doing exactly what you were expected to do, exactly what I've described between each example, exactly what reduces these conversations to inanity, and your arguments to bad faith. 

Okay, pal. I got it. You consider these conversations to be useless. Stay true to your word and don't bring this up, especially when you're not ready to have a lengthy discussion about the supposed mistakes. What you're doing now is a meta discussion, even more useless.....

(April 7, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Magic book either contains accurate information 1400 years prior to any explanation of why that information would or even could be included, or it doesn't. 

You got it. More importantly, it doesn't contain any mistakes. Just say out loud atheists so we can move on.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As I have repeatedly explained, there is no point in bickering over whether mistakes are mistakes.  You ask for them, people hand them to you, and you repeatedly demonstrate that you never wanted them and do not give a shit when they're presented.  

That it doesn't matter...to you.

(by the way, no one gives a shit what you or your pedo prophet consider blasphemy - you came to the worst possible place to insist on deference for that horseshit, lol)

No one handed me anything, pal. People here just type errors in the Qur'an in any search engine and vomit what they find. Not that I blame them, but I expected to have a challenge worthy of skeptics that really looked up abrahamic religions... or not

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. They are directly contradictory and you cannot resolve them.

They're not, you didn't even point to a contradiction. Creating man from nothing, from blood of clot, from sperm, are just different aspects of creation. It's really moronic to think describing stuff in different, complementary ways is somewhat contradictory.

I pointed out a crapton of contradictions. And I have many more. But you cant even be honest with the first one. You are compelled to flat out lie.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You also failed to respond to your BS about the Council of Nicea, which means you are wrong and you know it.

The trinity doctrine was implemented and adopted in the council. The latter, as a result, clearly had a decisive impact on the present-day christian doctrine.

Roling, rolling, rolling see those goalposts rollint rawhide!!!!
The Nicean councils did not do that. Pretending they did is a lie.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Of course christian literature doesn't acknowledge this, they treat the origin of their gospels as a problem though. There are literally dozens of theories explaining their origin, attempting to solve what they refer to as the synoptic problem. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#Theories

BS. You lied. Admit it. The canon was set in 382 CE at the council of Rome. You have not the foggiest clue what you are spouting on about.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: This is enough for me to conclude there is no comparison between the reliability of the Qur'an and that of the O/NT. The former began virtually as an audio book, mouth to ear recitation of hundreds of companions of Muhammad. They heard every word of the Qur'an verbatim from their prophet. This is very very different from what christians face to back up the historicity of their holy book.

The christians cannot back up their holy book. The muslims cannot back up their holy book. Nobody can back up any holy book.

Except for Nay_Sayer, who can back up his holy book. Isn't that strange?

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You also failed to respond to the fact that we already know that there was never an Adam. Because you were wrong and you know it.

How do you know that.. exactly?

That would be science. You know, the thing you reject while fucking using it to post right fucking here.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I know allah is not real so I can call him/her/it/housecat whatever I like and it matters not a whit.

It's really retarded to claim you know some god isn't real. At least say no evidence convinced you.

There is no evidence to convince me. You have none at all.

Has any deity been proven real? It is rather simple. I will believe pretty much anything given sufficient evidence. But you have none. If you were to prove allah the shit real, I would believe in him/her/it/housecat. But I guarantee I would spit on him/her/it/housecat, because as described it's a cunt.

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Perhaps that offends you and your religious sensibilities? Tough. You do not have a right to be not offended. By anything.


I do believe in the right to free speech, which is why I am even responding to you. But clearly, you do not believe in free speech or the free exchange of ideas because you take offense at my use of the term "allah the shit". Free speech should not be allowed in your mad system. You take offence at the term "allah the shit". Why should I give a flying fuck about your offended sensibility about an imaginary sky fairy? Really. I am seriously asking the question. Why should I care about someone else's delusional magic friend?

(April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Free speech isn't equivalent to being a provocative, impolite ass when discussing with a believer. You can express your disagreement without resorting to insults we regard as blasphemy.

Blasphemy. That is merely amusing. How can one give offence to an imaginary being?

I have no problem using the term "allah the shit" because I have freedom of speech. You want to stop that.

Why do you oppose freedom of speech?

Because you do not want freedom. Your imaginary god has told you it is wrong. But it wasn't your imaginary god. It was your very real imam who told you. Odd that, no?

(April 7, 2020 at 7:53 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Charts?!  I love charts!

(April 7, 2020 at 8:05 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Okay, pal. I got it. You consider these conversations to be useless. Stay true to your word and don't bring this up, especially when you're not ready to have a lengthy discussion about the supposed mistakes. What you're doing now is a meta discussion, even more useless.....

I'm explaining to you how you have made them useless.  

You can use this information to improve your delivery - or not.

Further examples of exactly how you fuck the pooch follow below.

Quote:You got it. More importantly, it doesn't contain any mistakes. Just say out loud atheists so we can move on.

No one handed me anything, pal. People here just type errors in the Qur'an in any search engine and vomit what they find. Not that I blame them, but I expected to have a challenge worthy of skeptics that really looked up abrahamic religions... or not

It's a miracle, except when it isn't, which it is...and it's accurate, except when it isn't, but it doesn't need to be because that's not the point of magic book - and it wouldn't mean anything if magic book got it wrong..

Which it does....but, obviously, given the litany of bad faith arguments and incompetent reasons™ you've spouted off just in this thread, just in these last few hours...couldn't possibly matter to you. I've always been ready to state a fact and move on, especially when that fact isn't really pertinent to the underlying contention.

If you'll recall, I found no point in arguing over whether mistakes are mistakes, because it doesn't matter that there are mistakes in magic book - it's just not surprising that a google search will turn up an endless buffet of them.

(April 7, 2020 at 5:00 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 4:34 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: [/url][url=https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/alaqa.html]https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/alaqa.html


https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc...mbryo.html

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc...alaqa.html

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc...ryo_ra.htm

Excellent job, kid. You destroyed Islam by your unmatched copy-paste links' skills.

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(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Life evolved on Earth which had those chemical elements. It was inevitable that life would contain the same elements in roughy similar proportions.

Are you stupid or what.? How did the Qur'an get this detail straight..? Huh..? How did Muhammad foresee the chemical similarities between earth and life..?

So providing links that challenge your specific claim and your only response is snide commentary .Really didn't' expect anything less really 

He didn't  

Oh and don't call me kid sonny

That's always a fun one. "How did my shaman get this thing he got wrong...right". Hell, Big Mo didn't seem to be able to get much of anything right.

Totally botched the rollout of christianity among his followers, for example.

(April 7, 2020 at 8:15 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(April 7, 2020 at 5:00 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Excellent job, kid. You destroyed Islam by your unmatched copy-paste links' skills.

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Are you stupid or what.? How did the Qur'an get this detail straight..? Huh..? How did Muhammad foresee the chemical similarities between earth and life..?

So providing links that challenge your specific claim and your only response is snide commentary .Really didn't' expect anything less really 

K is not interested in facts.

(April 7, 2020 at 8:15 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Oh and don't call me kid sonny

As I said, I have a trans teen. K would have me butcher him. He wont address that since he knows he cannot. Were I to guess, I would place him as a teen muslim, but that is also a guess. But nobody knows because whoever he is, he has been lying this whole time and we can all see it. That takes religion. No real person would do that.

(April 7, 2020 at 8:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a miracle, except when it isn't, which it is...and it's accurate, except when it isn't, but it doesn't need to be because that's not the point of magic book - and it wouldn't mean anything if magic book got it wrong..

I am just asking to show me exactly, where the Qur'an got it wrong. Just go back and read the first attempt Ire made. Is copy pasting five verses decribing various stuff amounts to a mistake.......? Is that the best you can do.?

If it's trivial to you that our holy book is not holy... help us then get to that, by bringing trivially clear mistakes ...?

(April 7, 2020 at 8:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you'll recall, I found no point in arguing over whether mistakes are mistakes, because it doesn't matter that there are mistakes in magic book - it's just not surprising that a google search will turn up an endless buffet of them.

It matters to me a lot. I suggest you take some time - or someone else, to really get to the bottom of these claimed mistakes. If you think otherwise that I'm fine with reading a book I know is filled with mistakes for two decades now,....well, I'm not fine with that.