(May 1, 2020 at 3:23 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(May 1, 2020 at 3:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: It probably is sexual assault and not rape. Honestly, I've tended to use the two terms more or less interchangeably. And, odds are, Reade's allegation was made public well after the statute of limitations expired. It would have been nice if they'd investigated it earlier, but, frankly, I've read enough about such cases to know that it's a crapshoot whether or not the cops would actually DO anything about it, so it's little wonder that many victims don't actually report what happened to them. Once again, here's an example of what happened to one of Dahvie Vanity of Blood on the Dance Floor's victims when they called the police shortly after her assault took place:




Why, yes, waiting twenty-odd years before going public with these claims DOES make it harder for anything to actually happen and it's absolutely horrible that it's unreliable enough that they feel they have to end up going this route, but it's depressingly understandable if you know how this tends to work.

Yup the court system does not treat accusers well

In this case, This was the police, and It was more uselessness than not treating accusers well.

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And for the record, yes, there are still statutes of limitations for sex crimes in many states.

Quote:Well what a hot interview of Joe Biden addressing the claims

Not really it was pretty average interview which Biden is surprising 

Quote:The reporter really drills Joe for 18 minutes, asking some very difficult questions, frustratingly repeating questions
And how did Joe handle the pressure.

Again average which for Joe Biden is a miracle 

Quote:Joe Biden did very well, he destroyed her really. He gets frustrated a bit at the end with her silly repeat questions 
I don't think he shows any signs of guilt at all. He didn't hesitate or pause, he wasn't slow, he really did well

1.No he did no destroy her in fact he pretty evasive 

2.That only proves he feels no guilt not that he's not guilty 

Quote:She hammered him with the "believeallwomen" thing and he smashed her right back. 
Actually not even sure how he pulled that off but she bought it and let it go eventually

You don't understand that term and he doesn't "smash her at all " quite freaking exaggerating . his was a mild interview and Biden above his average .Which isn't saying much. 

Quote:Oh and a police report has been filed so his under investigation for sexual assault

Good

(May 1, 2020 at 3:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Why, yes, waiting twenty-odd years before going public with these claims DOES make it harder for anything to actually happen and it's absolutely horrible that it's unreliable enough that they feel they have to end up going this route, but it's depressingly understandable if you know how this tends to work.

The sooner a crime is reported the better chance there is of getting good evidence. 
With a rape they would do a check on her to find evidence of penetration, semen, signs of a struggle like bruises, check to see if she got drugged
It's hard to prove a rape so every piece of evidence is crucial. 
They may find signs of penetration and semen but it still doesn't prove a rape cos it could have been consentual

Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women. 

Not only is it harder to make a case after so long but it's not fair on the defendant as it is also harder to defend.

(May 1, 2020 at 3:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 1, 2020 at 3:23 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Yup the court system does not treat accusers well

In this case, This was the police, and It was more uselessness than not treating accusers well.

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And for the record, yes, there are still statutes of limitations for sex crimes in many states. 

I count the police as part of the court system .Though i suppose legal would have been more accurate a term

(May 1, 2020 at 3:40 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: You don't understand that term

Hehehe explain it to me then. And metoo as well seeing i don't understand it...

Quote:The sooner a crime is reported the better chance there is of getting good evidence. 
With a rape they would do a check on her to find evidence of penetration, semen, signs of a struggle like bruises, check to see if she got drugged
It's hard to prove a rape so every piece of evidence is crucial. 

No ones saying it wouldn't be better .But it's not the way reality works and there are reasons for delay .

Quote:They may find signs of penetration and semen but it still doesn't prove a rape cos it could have been consentual

True

Quote:Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women. 

Delusion 

Quote:Not only is it harder to make a case after so long but it's not fair on the defendant as it is also harder to defend.

Yes it is fair .It needs to be investigated period .Sexual assault allegations can' simply be ignored

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(May 1, 2020 at 3:47 pm)Agnostico Wrote:

(May 1, 2020 at 3:40 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: You don't understand that term

Hehehe explain it to me then. And metoo as well seeing i don't understand it...

That would imply you are capable of understanding it or you do and choose to misrepresent it for some bizarre reason

I'll go with the latter .

SUNGALA Wrote:That would imply you are capable of understanding it or you do and choose to misrepresent it for some bizarre reason

I simply asked u to tell me what #believeallwomen and #metoo is

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(May 1, 2020 at 3:48 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women. 

Delusion 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA  
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
 

Oh mate uv been quite recently with boring responses then all of the sudden, CRACKER, u pull out you best one worder to date. 
Ohhhehehehehheheheh classic. 

What would u even know about Vicpol or the OPP or piranha or the yellow submarine or the mag... Sweet fuck all...
Their just a buch of pixels to u 
But off course your such a Wozl. No shame dishonesty. 

Like u know what cops and courts are like in every country right.  
I set u up and catch you out every time either contradicting urself or being dishonest...

The one worder is your trademark mate u gotta use that shit more often. 
And whats with this agreeing business from before, that's not u. Uv changed
Stop elaborating all the time, ur not good at that it's just not u. One worders are your specialty

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Where were u on the anti vaxx thread SUNGs u missed that one

Well, on the off chance that you're willing to learn:
#metoo is largely about acknowledging the fact that sexual harassment or misconduct in all its forms is an omnipresent problem for women (and men, to a lesser extent).
#believeallwomen is, depending on the user, either a strawman version of #believewomen (because false accusations aren't really as common as people often claim they are, though not as rare as many feminists claim they are), or an earnestly-believed and particularly unreasonable version of same (because, frankly, for all their virtues, women are still human with all the dysfunctional shit that entails). Looking it up, I'm seeing it used more commonly in the former sense.

And just so we're clear, when you say "Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women." Are you sure you're talking about the police and legal system or are you talking about the media and social media? Because I do think trials by social media and media are a legitimate problem and far more likely to net a false positive than a proper legal trial.

(May 1, 2020 at 5:17 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Well, on the off chance that you're willing to learn:
#metoo  is largely about acknowledging the fact that sexual harassment or misconduct in all its forms is an omnipresent problem for women (and men, to a lesser extent).
#believeallwomen is, depending on the user, either a strawman version of #believewomen (because false accusations aren't really as common as people often claim they are, though not as rare as many feminists claim they are), or an earnestly-believed and particularly unreasonable version of same (because, frankly, for all their virtues, women are still human with all the dysfunctional shit that entails). Looking it up, I'm seeing it used more commonly in the former sense.

And just so we're clear, when you say "Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women." Are you sure you're talking about the police and legal system or are you talking about the media and social media? Because I do think trials by social media and media are a legitimate problem and far more likely to net a false positive than a proper legal trial.

Well said

Debating about Biden’s sexual assault accusation and what constitutes rape is really awkward for we survivors. You don’t have to be part of every debate. Sometimes listening and observing is best.