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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 5:14 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 5:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t think anyone here supports the wholesale murder of Muslims. This is what makes such a stark contrast, since there are some Muslims (not a lot, but some) who support the wholesale murder of non-Muslims.
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Maybe outside on both sides they exist.
But I already wrote about how the Quran bans killing without a reason.
Though the terrorism scapegoat is old news.
And I’ve already written that it doesn’t much matter what the Quran has to say about it.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 5:09 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 5:06 pm)WinterHold Wrote: There's an other reason: the existence of people who hate and bite their hands and fingers from anger when they hear the Quran.
That would be an equally poor reason to believe, imo. People hating something doesn't make that thing true.
Maybe that thing is just disgusting? It's a possibility worth exploring.
Oh, back to the disgusting "language".
What about atheists who claim they "abandoned belief because God is a killer"? are they disgusting, according to your own words?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:18 pm
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Killing with reason™ is in. This is probably what concerns people. We're familiar with the mechanics from our own professions and provisions on killing.
(May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 5:09 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That would be an equally poor reason to believe, imo. People hating something doesn't make that thing true.
Maybe that thing is just disgusting? It's a possibility worth exploring.
Oh, back to the disgusting "language". You misunderstand. Plenty of disgusting things can be clothed in beautiful language. The content of your religion is disgusting. No amount of poetry, beautifully produced in ornate calligraphy, can occlude this fact.
Quote:What about atheists who claim they "abandoned belief because God is a killer"? are they disgusting, according to your own words?
More like disgusted. That much seems obvious?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:23 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 5:18 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Killing with reason™ is in. This is probably what concerns people. We're familiar with the mechanics from our own professions and provisions on killing.
Come talk to me after a thieve enters your house at night, putting your whole family to danger.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:24 pm
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-and when your house is the whole world, as this earth is surely allahs house.....
Exactly, exactly this sort of sentiment, yes.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 5:26 pm
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(May 8, 2020 at 5:01 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 4:57 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope pointing your failings .LOL LOL LOL 
Thanks for proving my point 
The night follows the day. You will keep laughing, and the numbers of Muslims will keep growing.
With every giggle of hate, you will lose precious allies and gain more trolls to your side. 1.Actually the proved opposite as usual
2.And once again you display your ignorance , And it doesn't matter how many gullible people bring in you'll just be a greater horde of gullible people and i will still laugh
3. With every giggle of fact , I distinguish the people i would prefer to have on my side regardless of number .It is better to have 12 voltaire's then 50000 General Custards .
So this little attempt at posturing fails
Quote:You are not laughing you are biting your hands from anger.
Nope laughing my ass off at your absurd idea's like i would any quack
Quote:If you had the chance, you and your likes will murder all Muslims.
Nope
Quote:All because they believed in God, and that the night covers the day ^_^
Nope and no night does not cover day .Silly silly silly
Quote:There's an other reason: the existence of people who hate and bite their hands and fingers from anger when they hear the Quran.
Or laugh hysterically when they hear the silliness in it
Quote:Maybe outside on both sides they exist.
But I already wrote about how the Quran bans killing without a reason.
Actually like always you failed to do so
Quote:Though the terrorism scapegoat is old news.
Go tell that to ISIS
Quote:Oh, back to the disgusting "language".
It is
Quote:What about atheists who claim they "abandoned belief because God is a killer"? are they disgusting, according to your own words?
Accept no one claimed that .
Quote:Come talk to me after a thieve enters your house at night, putting your whole family to danger.
Which can be dealt with without killing and has been done without killing and murder and killing are two distinct things
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 6:02 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 4:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (May 7, 2020 at 11:11 pm)brewer Wrote: So it can be interpreted any way that the reader wants. What a wonderful religion. 
No. It said: "by the sun and its morn". You can't interpret it as "the moon".
It said "by the moon when it follows it". You can't interpret it as "the sun when it follows".
You see where I'm going? the book literally said something, but you insist on something else.
I can see that you don't know what I'm talking about. Pretty pointless when you can't follow the conversation.
If the book literally said something, the book literally got it wrong. The moon does not follow it (the sun).
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 7:52 pm
(May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Oh, back to the disgusting "language".
What about atheists who claim they "abandoned belief because God is a killer"? are they disgusting, according to your own words?
Belief either is or isn't. A person may turn from a god because of said god's actions but that doesn't mean they stop believing in that god.
Lack of belief isn't due to actions or inactions. Lack of belief is due to lack of evidence of the very existence.
Atheists aren't mad at god. There's no god to be mad at.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 8, 2020 at 10:25 pm
Night does not "cover" the sun and the moon does not "follow" it. I know 4 year old children who understand this. The Quran contains no more scientific merit than you would expect from the ramblings of a petty 7th century warlord.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: By the sun and its morn
May 9, 2020 at 12:22 am
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(May 8, 2020 at 6:02 pm)brewer Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 4:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote: No. It said: "by the sun and its morn". You can't interpret it as "the moon".
It said "by the moon when it follows it". You can't interpret it as "the sun when it follows".
You see where I'm going? the book literally said something, but you insist on something else.
I can see that you don't know what I'm talking about. Pretty pointless when you can't follow the conversation.
If the book literally said something, the book literally got it wrong. The moon does not follow it (the sun).
I also see the same thing.
But as a final word in this: I again repeat my words "the night comes after the day".
(May 8, 2020 at 7:52 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (May 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Oh, back to the disgusting "language".
What about atheists who claim they "abandoned belief because God is a killer"? are they disgusting, according to your own words?
Belief either is or isn't. A person may turn from a god because of said god's actions but that doesn't mean they stop believing in that god.
Lack of belief isn't due to actions or inactions. Lack of belief is due to lack of evidence of the very existence.
Atheists aren't mad at god. There's no god to be mad at.
You have your evidence that many atheists are mad at God.
While some may leave belief for lack of evidence, others leave it because they are simply mad and angry about him.
(May 8, 2020 at 10:25 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Night does not "cover" the sun and the moon does not "follow" it. I know 4 year old children who understand this. The Quran contains no more scientific merit than you would expect from the ramblings of a petty 7th century warlord.
If a child can understand the word "perspective", then this verse will be very clear.
I am oblivious about grown ups who keep ignore the perspective thing.
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