(May 29, 2020 at 6:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes Biker, it's very fair to use the term cops, plural, when addressing years of institutional racism.

Even if we limited ourselves to just this one incident, it appears that there were a few cops standing around who could have done some serving and protecting.  They didn't.

To be fair, one of the standing around cops said, ‘Should we put him on his side?’ to which Chauvin replied, ‘He’s staying were he is.’  This appears to be what caused ‘evincing depraved mind’ to be included in the official charges.

So, even when some cops try to serve and protect, they get overruled by senior officers.

Boru

Cops are a necessary evil in our current society . But let's be clear they are ultimately an evil 

They can be a good person but not a good cop that role is tainted

(May 29, 2020 at 10:53 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Cops are a necessary evil in our current society . But let's be clear they are ultimately an evil 

They can be a good person but not a good cop that role is tainted

So cop #3 is tainted because they did the right thing and were punished for it?

(May 29, 2020 at 10:55 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(May 29, 2020 at 10:53 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Cops are a necessary evil in our current society . But let's be clear they are ultimately an evil 

They can be a good person but not a good cop that role is tainted

So cop #3 is tainted because they did the right thing and were punished for it?

Yup as a cop he is still part of a tainted system

As a person they are a good person who did the right thing

(May 29, 2020 at 7:26 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The cop, Chauvin, has been charged with 3rd degree murder.  There's absolutely no excuse for what he did and, frankly, I think the other officers should be charged with something for standing by and not doing anything.

From my understanding the cops opened fire on the peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets, perhaps precipitating the riots.

Just to be clear, as far as I'm concerned, there is no excuse for rioting or looting and those involved deserve to have the book thrown at them, preferably wrapped around a brick.

There has to be something lacking in the way cops are educated and trained these days that they are unaware of the fact that their every action on the street is very likely to be recorded on one of the millions of cameras people carry with them.

They read too may Joseph Wambaugh novels. You can't get away with that shit anymore.

(May 28, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Editz Wrote: The city's mayor is to blame for his statement IMO - talk about buying into a prevailing narrative wholesale:

Quote:“Being black in America should not be a death sentence,” the city’s mayor said as video of the arrest was widely shared.

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(May 28, 2020 at 12:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: On a manacled suspect. Who wasn’t resisting. This cop is a bad guy, racist or not.

Boru

How do you know he wasn't resisting pre "knee on neck" ?

Why was the mayor wrong to say it? Black people die younger, have more health complicatikns, are gicen worse education, are murdered without consequence by state actors and caucasians, are far more likely to be heavily punished for minor crimes or even while innocent. And it's all becauee of the racist nature of the systems of power in the US.

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(May 29, 2020 at 7:26 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The cop, Chauvin, has been charged with 3rd degree murder.  There's absolutely no excuse for what he did and, frankly, I think the other officers should be charged with something for standing by and not doing anything.

From my understanding the cops opened fire on the peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets, perhaps precipitating the riots.

Just to be clear, as far as I'm concerned, there is no excuse for rioting or looting and those involved deserve to have the book thrown at them, preferably wrapped around a brick.

Whoever allowed Chauvin to stay on the force despite his career long pattern of criminal behaviour should be up for negligent manslaughter, at the very least.

Everybody got some bigotry.

(May 30, 2020 at 6:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Everybody got some bigotry.

People like you ALWAYS say stuff like that. 

Boru

(May 30, 2020 at 7:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 30, 2020 at 6:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Everybody got some bigotry.

People like you ALWAYS say stuff like that. 

Boru

You know, I was just reading about a guy who shot another guy in the back, three slugs from the guy's own gun.

Well, he was hardly likely to have his slugs in someone else's gun.

Boru