(July 24, 2020 at 5:37 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 24, 2020 at 5:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I accept your concession.

Boru

concession ? lol
Please read the OP again, and read the title over and over.

Ok.  *read read read*

Well, the title is inaccurate for a start.  Is there something else I'm missing?

Boru

Quote:That's what you get when you send barbaric crusaders from Europe to do your dirty work.

That's what you get when Islam violently expands like the hypocrites you are 

Quote: Hagia Sophia -along with whole Constantinople- got conquered in return. 

Lol gotta love how conquest is used as justified action lol 

Quote:Then mad Europeans went to America and massacred its whole population

No they fucking didn't were still here dipshit And the Hamidians,Armenians,Assyrian,Greeks,Kurds, would all like to be ungenocided

Quote: when the Muslims proved to be a tough challenge to beat, 

Lol accept we did eventual beat you and we keep beating you in every way .Hell the computer your writing with is a tribute to the wests victory . You took one city we took the whole world and beyond .

Quote:so they beat nude people instead.

So both ignorant and racist 

Quote:Now the mosque returned to us. Why so angry?

It's not yours you didn't build it and were not angry dumbass

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Quote:Spain is full of Islamic mosques turned to bars or museums.

Yup on land you stole

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Quote:concession ? lol

Please read the OP again, and read the title over and over.

He did and it's still stupid 

Quote:Completed during the reign of the eastern Roman emperor Justinian I, the church was then the world's largest interior space and among the first to employ a fully pendentive dome. It is considered the epitome of Byzantine architecture[4] and is said to have "changed the history of architecture".[5] Built as the Christian cathedral of Constantinople between 532 and 537 on the orders of Justinian I, the basilica was designed by the Greek geometers Isidore of Miletus and Anthemius of Tralles.[6] The present Justinianic building was the third church of the same name to occupy the site, the prior one having been destroyed in the Nika riots. Being the episcopal see of the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople, it remained the world's largest cathedral for nearly a thousand years, until Seville Cathedral was completed in 1520.

The church was dedicated to the Wisdom of God, the Logos, the second person of the Trinity,[7] its patronal feast taking place on 25 December (Christmas), the commemoration of the birth of the incarnation of the Logos in Christ.[7] Sophia is the Latin transliteration of the Greek word for wisdom and, although sometimes referred to as Sancta Sophia, 'Saint Sophia', it is not connected with Sophia the Martyr.

I was a Christian church and always will be no matter what some tin pot dictator says and it will always be a tribute to western engineering and thought no matter how much Islamic symbology they try and cover it up with .

(July 24, 2020 at 5:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 24, 2020 at 5:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m not angry, and I’m sorry if I gave that impression. 

But the brute fact is that Hagia Sophia was a church longer than it was a mosque. You stole it once, you’ve stolen it again.

Boru

Spain is full of Islamic mosques turned to bars or museums.

Spain turned mosques into bars? Or was that Israel. You know they arent the same, right? Its not even the same fucking continent!

Firstoff: Spain was christian (arian visigoths) before there *suddenly* were mosques. There is a reason the spanish called their campaign reconquista, ya know.
Second: The Hagia Sophia was a church for twice as long as it was a mosque. Dont you think it would have been more sensible to put it back into its original use?
Your apologetics for the destruction of the Byzantine Empire and conversion of Hagia Sophia is pathetic, and exactly what one expect from an uncivilized islamist. Its quite ironic that someone like you, who has little regard for other peoples life, particularly those who dont share the same nonsensical beliefs with you, calls others barbaric.

Lets have a look at spain, Cordoba maybe? Mezquita-Catedral de Córdoba is one of the biggest sacral buildings in the world. It is a catholic cathedral and a former mosque. But wait.....it was a visigoth cathedral before there was a mosque. But wait, there was a roman temple before the visigoth cathedral.
Long story short: Please spare us with your pathetic and dishonest victim complex. Your veil of fake piety is so thin, that maybe Allah himself will see what a fucking liar you are. What is the punishment for lying, cutting tongues out maybe? Who cares, but it certainly is something to do with physical violence, Islam(ists) love physical violence, to others i mean, dontcha?

I have visited some of those places in Spain. They are impressive, very impressive, awe inspiring. Do i care if they were muslim, or christan, which one first? Not at all. They speak volumes about the chaotic and violent history of that place. Violent, because of the connection oif religion with politics. Unlike you i am not a bigot or hypocrite who cares only about his own narrow-minded beliefs and so i have no desire to convert one of them (back) to anything, if maybe a museum maybe. Definitely into something that preservers history and culture of the past for the people of the future.

What is so horrible about making a museum out of a sacral building? Museums are intended for public education, they preserve history, sacral buildings arent. Are you opposed to public education? Was it necessary to convert the Hagia Sophia again? It wasnt, there is an even bigger mosque right across the street. Is Islam in danger in Turkey? I dont fucking think so. No, this is not about piety, it never is with bigoted believers (like you). Its about showing power, flexing muscles. Its a threat. I know it and you know it. So stop pretending otherwise.

The crusader stuff and america:
#1 America is fucking off topic. You should be reported for trolling, as per your own standards.
#2 You are unable to not mention crusaders, even when talking about bad weather. Pathetic.....and quite obsessive. Get help.

But lets face it: This was just another another political stunt of Erdogan. And you are his willing accomplice to connect religion and politics, letting one become the vehicle for the other, possibly leading to numerous victims again, just like the crusades. Thats what islamists (like you) dream about at night. Congratulations for that.

The tragedy is: You are whining day in day out about crusades, but you are gleefully applauding when someone provides the same socio-political setup again in our days, just for *your team*.

You are a bigot and a hypocrite.

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(July 24, 2020 at 5:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Europeans went to America and massacred its whole population when the Muslims proved to be a tough challenge to beat, so they beat nude people instead.

You fucking ignorant racist piece of shit.


The people of the americas had civilisations that produced pyramids like the egyptians, cities like Constantinople, empires like the Roman Empire, were savvy in stuff like astronomy and were able to feed more people due to clever farming in very hostile environements.
And guess what: Their culture dates back at least 4000 years

They also succumbed mostly to the diseases the europeans brought with them, you ignorant fuck.

Ignoring the main subject, Erdogan deserves a bullet through the brain.

Those so called Naked people built this 



And this 



My people made this 


A language so complex it would melt your little Muslim brain

(July 24, 2020 at 4:38 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The first Friday Islamic prayer was held in "Hagia Sophia" mosque after about 80 years of turning it into a museum.







The Turkish president Erdogan led the prayer:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/j...ned-mosque

As a Muslim, I couldn't be happier to witness this glorious day. Thanks Allah for this.
I hope all our mosques return to us like Hagia Sophia.

Erdogan deserves my thanks, so as Turkey and its wonderful present.

So as well as being a muslim extremist you're also a neo-nazi? Given Erdogan's political positions, that's where he wants to take Turkey.

At work.

WinterHold?

You are demonstrating via your posting to be quite the ignorant Twat-waffle.

Cheers.

Religion, it's a hell of a drug!

(July 25, 2020 at 3:48 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Ignoring the main subject, Erdogan deserves a bullet through the brain.

why, in your opinion ?

(July 25, 2020 at 4:14 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(July 25, 2020 at 3:48 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Ignoring the main subject, Erdogan deserves a bullet through the brain.

why, in your opinion ?

He is a violent tinpot dictator who has rolled back all the advances Turkey had made, he is Turkeys Trump.