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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
August 30, 2020 at 8:31 am
(August 29, 2020 at 5:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Anyway, they're making a movie that nobody will watch. It will be shown and reshown in church basements across the Bible Belt. "God's Not Dead" was followed by "God's Not Dead 2", meaning the first one made money.
I do love the system, "Free showing!" and then they pass the plate.
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
August 30, 2020 at 9:18 am
Meh, it can't be worse than God is not dead. Now that movie was really insulting.
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
August 30, 2020 at 10:28 am
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(August 30, 2020 at 8:31 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (August 29, 2020 at 5:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Anyway, they're making a movie that nobody will watch. It will be shown and reshown in church basements across the Bible Belt. "God's Not Dead" was followed by "God's Not Dead 2", meaning the first one made money.
I do love the system, "Free showing!" and then they pass the plate.
"God's Not Dead" is one of the rare religious movies that made money, just like "Passion of Christ", but otherwise (from what I noticed) religious and Bible based movies don't draw viewers. And that's because religion is very divisive since it is not objective, meaning religious people have their own definitions of elements in the religion like what is soul, sin, Jesus, antichrist, what some Bible story means, etc. to an almost individual level, that filmmakers can't please them.
And just look at Marian apparitions - it's something that most Christian denominations see as just another Catholic fetish.
Or look at some famous movies about Jesus that Pope hated and even recommended Catholics not to watch it: "Jesus Christ Superstar" - about singing and dancing Jesus, "Last Temptation of Christ" - about horny Jesus; but "Passion", about violent Jesus, he recommended.
And of course, the quality of religious movies is usually very low that people really don't have much of an interest in them. I mean in the last few years there was a Jesus movie with Joaquin Phoenix and who ever watched that movie? Or Jesus movie with Joseph Fiennes, or Noah movie with Russell Crowe, movie about Jesus's childhood, Or "two popes" with Anthony Hopkins and Jonathan Pryce that didn't even have a theatrical release - and these are higher profile movies with prominent actors names.
Now, of course, maybe this movie turns out to be a fluke and makes a lot of money like "God's Not Dead", but there isn't any reason for that. It seems that Christians were fooled to watch "God's Not Dead" because it was kind of a fresh take on religious movies - that it was not about the Bible or some miracle, but, at least from the poster, it seemed to be smart, about philosophy, and an actual philosophical proof of God - but it was none of that, and it seems that Christians who saw it didn't like it. So they didn't turn to see the sequel or let alone the third movie.
For most of these movies even Christians can see what they are and that they'll be stupid and boring.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
August 30, 2020 at 10:53 am
(August 30, 2020 at 10:28 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 30, 2020 at 8:31 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: It will be shown and reshown in church basements across the Bible Belt. "God's Not Dead" was followed by "God's Not Dead 2", meaning the first one made money.
I do love the system, "Free showing!" and then they pass the plate.
"God's Not Dead" is one of the rare religious movies that made money, just like "Passion of Christ", but otherwise (from what I noticed) religious and Bible based movies don't draw viewers. And that's because religion is very divisive since it is not objective, meaning religious people have their own definitions of elements in the religion like what is soul, sin, Jesus, antichrist, what some Bible story means, etc. to an almost individual level, that filmmakers can't please them.
And just look at Marian apparitions - it's something that most Christian denominations see as just another Catholic fetish.
Or look at some famous movies about Jesus that Pope hated and even recommended Catholics not to watch it: "Jesus Christ Superstar" - about singing and dancing Jesus, "Last Temptation of Christ" - about horny Jesus; but "Passion", about violent Jesus, he recommended.
And of course, the quality of religious movies is usually very low that people really don't have much of an interest in them. I mean in the last few years there was a Jesus movie with Joaquin Phoenix and who ever watched that movie? Or Jesus movie with Joseph Fiennes, or Noah movie with Russell Crowe, movie about Jesus's childhood, Or "two popes" with Anthony Hopkins and Jonathan Pryce that didn't even have a theatrical release - and these are higher profile movies with prominent actors names.
Now, of course, maybe this movie turns out to be a fluke and makes a lot of money like "God's Not Dead", but there isn't any reason for that. It seems that Christians were fooled to watch "God's Not Dead" because it was kind of a fresh take on religious movies - that it was not about the Bible or some miracle, but, at least from the poster, it seemed to be smart, about philosophy, and an actual philosophical proof of God - but it was none of that, and it seems that Christians who saw it didn't like it. So they didn't turn to see the sequel or let alone the third movie.
For most of these movies even Christians can see what they are and that they'll be stupid and boring.
Very Pitifully plaintiff of an ever lasting all mighty to Have to protest that he is not dead, twice.
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
August 30, 2020 at 3:10 pm
(August 29, 2020 at 6:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How the hell they ever conned Sonja Braga and Harvey Keitel to appear in this, I’ll never know.
Boru
Easy....they paid them.
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
September 6, 2020 at 9:30 am
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(August 29, 2020 at 11:28 am)Eleven Wrote: Fatima
*triple facepalm*
A classic economic instance of where demand creates supply:
Our Lady of Fatima movies
What happened on October 13, 1917 (which, by the way, did not reoccur on October 13, 2017) is this:
1) Lucia was a crank, a truly nutty little Spanish girl, who, probably out of boredom, concocted the whole angelic visitations, and then, later on, the Virgin Mary apparitions.
2) To make a long story short, a lot of people showed-up on October 13, 1917 to witness the so-called miracle, which was never specified in advance, but was supposed to occur at noon.
3) Noon came and went. Lucia started to sense that the people were getting restless.
4) It had been raining, heavily, that morning, and when the Sun began emerging behind the clouds, Lucia started screaming, telling people to look at the Sun.
5) They did so, and they saw what they wanted to see.
6) Post hoc ergo propter hoc, and the Catholic Church declares the so-called Miracle of the Sun divine, and once they are all dead (and, hence, unable to contradict the official narrative), the three kiddos became Saints of the Catholic Church.
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
September 6, 2020 at 1:37 pm
Did they ever make the third Revelation, or whatever, public?
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RE: The false miracle of Fatima now a movie
September 6, 2020 at 2:03 pm
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(September 6, 2020 at 1:37 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Did they ever make the third Revelation, or whatever, public?
Not according to all Catholics. Many believe that Vatican is hiding the 3rd one because, according to them, it talks about indictment of most of the changes in the Church since Vatican II (held between 1962 and 1965) and would thus cause embarrassment to the current defenders of that council.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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