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The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
#31
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 6:31 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW27vpK4ALQ

Good thing you’ve got the sense not to participate in these taz-mating threads, then.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#32
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 6:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:31 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW27vpK4ALQ

Good thing you’ve got the sense not to participate in these taz-mating threads, then.

Boru
Tramadol has mellowed me.
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#33
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 6:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Good one.

I outlasted every single manager while working at a major pizza chain in the late 90s. I also outlasted every single dishwasher at my last long term job. 

I hate  to burst everyone's bubble here, but the days of lifetime careers regardless of position or class, are growing fewer and fewer.

So, you spend longer at a dead end, go nowhere job than your co-workers.

And you’re proud of that?

Boru

REALLY?

I can't believe you. As much as you rightfully rail against Trump and I'd hope you'd also rail against the likes of Hitler and Stalin, they were "successful" too, at least for a while.

Most humans WILL NOT be famous and end up in history books, good or bad, hero or villain. 

I have known and met plenty of people in my life, who will not be the likes of say Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris. And my late best friend Bob, was long ago, the very reason I know what I know now. He had an engineering degree. Bob introduced me to all the famous atheists I am familiar with now. He died broke and his sister and her husband took care of him late in his life because of his financial struggles. 

If you stupidly think that life is about title I feel sorry for you.

Again, if anyone reading this, not just you, thinks title and class are everything, the next time you go to a fast food joint tell the person behind the counter they are worthless.

If you cant or wont do that, THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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#34
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 6:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, you spend longer at a dead end, go nowhere job than your co-workers.

And you’re proud of that?

Boru

REALLY?

I can't believe you. As much as you rightfully rail against Trump and I'd hope you'd also rail against the likes of Hitler and Stalin, they were "successful" too, at least for a while.

Most humans WILL NOT be famous and end up in history books, good or bad, hero or villain. 

I have known and met plenty of people in my life, who will not be the likes of say Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris. And my late best friend Bob, was long ago, the very reason I know what I know now. He had an engineering degree. Bob introduced me to all the famous atheists I am familiar with now. He died broke and his sister and her husband took care of him late in his life because of his financial struggles. 

If you stupidly think that life is about title I feel sorry for you.

Again, if anyone reading this, not just you, thinks title and class are everything, the next time you go to a fast food joint tell the person behind the counter they are worthless.

If you cant or wont do that, THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

How did you get ANY of that from what I said?? I said nothing about title or class. I said that you - specifically - seem proud of having spent more time in a menial job than your co-workers (and before you snap, ‘menial’ isn’t a term of opprobrium).

Jesus, you’re stupid.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#35
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 7:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote: REALLY?

I can't believe you. As much as you rightfully rail against Trump and I'd hope you'd also rail against the likes of Hitler and Stalin, they were "successful" too, at least for a while.

Most humans WILL NOT be famous and end up in history books, good or bad, hero or villain. 

I have known and met plenty of people in my life, who will not be the likes of say Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris. And my late best friend Bob, was long ago, the very reason I know what I know now. He had an engineering degree. Bob introduced me to all the famous atheists I am familiar with now. He died broke and his sister and her husband took care of him late in his life because of his financial struggles. 

If you stupidly think that life is about title I feel sorry for you.

Again, if anyone reading this, not just you, thinks title and class are everything, the next time you go to a fast food joint tell the person behind the counter they are worthless.

If you cant or wont do that, THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP.

How did you get ANY of that from what I said??

Boru

There is no such thing as "dead end jobs" there are only jobs.

"Dead end" is simply BULLSHIT assholes use to look down on others.

There ARE plenty of people who work long term, and support families off of low wages jobs. 

"Dead end" would be what asholes like Gotti did, rip people off, extort them, and murder them.

Why should you, or anyone judge someone who works as a janitor or hotel maid or gas station clerk for a lifetime at the same place or same payscale?

It IT IS NOT impossible that people move up. But it is simply being a fucking dick to those who don't by using words like "dead end".

Nobody is saying "aim low". I AM saying life isn't a script, and some people simply do what they have to.
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#36
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:10 pm)brewer Wrote: That would be Star Trek. Unfortunately I'd probably be wearing a red shirt.

People need to stop saying that. It was the gold shirts that were at the highest risk of snuffing it.

It irritates me so much I want to shit on someone’s shoulders.

Boru

The gold shirts were screwing whatever starlet showed up for that episode. Snuffed by the boyfriend is a chance I'd take.

BTW Brian: Notice that the gold shirts are doing it?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#37
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 7:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 7:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How did you get ANY of that from what I said??

Boru

There is no such thing as "dead end jobs" there are only jobs.

"Dead end" is simply BULLSHIT assholes use to look down on others.

There ARE plenty of people who work long term, and support families off of low wages jobs. 

"Dead end" would be what asholes like Gotti did, rip people off, extort them, and murder them.

Why should you, or anyone judge someone who works as a janitor or hotel maid or gas station clerk for a lifetime at the same place or same payscale?

It IT IS NOT impossible that people move up. But it is simply being a fucking dick to those who don't by using words like "dead end".

Nobody is saying "aim low". I AM saying life isn't a script, and some people simply do what they have to.

Yes, there IS such a thing as a dead end job. It’s generally defined as one where there is little or no chance of advancement.  It isn’t meant to be a criticism of the person doing the job, but of the job itself.

Actually, Gotti wasn’t in a dead end job at all. He started as an associate and worked his way up to boss (although it’s fair to point out that a large part of his career advancement scheme involved killing people who held the job he wanted, especially Paul Castellano).

When did I judge anyone for the work they do? The only judgement I made was about your own lack of ambition.

Pour yourself a shot of peanut butter whiskey. I think you need it. Maybe a double.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#38
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 8:22 pm)brewer Wrote:
(September 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: People need to stop saying that. It was the gold shirts that were at the highest risk of snuffing it.

It irritates me so much I want to shit on someone’s shoulders.

Boru

The gold shirts were screwing whatever starlet showed up for that episode. Snuffed by the boyfriend is a chance I'd take.

BTW Brian: Notice that the gold shirts are doing it?

Odds of being killed by shirt (TOS only):

Gold: 13.9

Red: 10.0

Blue: 5.1

While more red shirts in raw numbers died, they made up a larger percentage of the crew. Relatively few gold shirts turns their lower number of deaths into a higher percentage.

The REAL risk was being a security officer. Their death rate was around 60%.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#39
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
I could do it if I wanted to!
Dying to live, living to die.
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#40
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 6, 2020 at 8:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Odds of being killed by shirt (TOS only):

Gold: 13.9

Red: 10.0

Blue: 5.1

While more red shirts in raw numbers died, they made up a larger percentage of the crew. Relatively few gold shirts turns their lower number of deaths into a higher percentage.

The REAL risk was being a security officer. Their death rate was around 60%.

Boru

Details schmeetails.

Killjoy.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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