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[Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
#51
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 20, 2020 at 9:43 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 20, 2020 at 8:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You’re still not grasping the point. Under the collective delusion  known as the Abrahamic religions, there not only is no ability to freely choose an action, it is impossible for such a choice to exist in the first place.

If there is nothing we make or create that God hasn’t willed to exist, there can be no free choice. If I murder a child, then God has willed that a child be murdered by me, I have no choice in the matter. At the risk of being repetitive, it is God’s will that the child be murdered and that I be the one to commit the act. Similarly, if I have the opportunity to murder a child and don’t, then God has willed it to be so. Again, I didn’t choose not to murder the child, I’m simply acting out a choice made by God, not by me.
Modern science and the advent of A.I (artificial intelligence) proved that creations can make their own choice as local processes spawned from the mother process.

Take face detection for example -which is an application of A.I-. You take a picture of a face then pass it to a digital Neural Network, the network then decides "who is in the picture" based on the experience it stored before.

This literally the computer answering you with "yes the face belongs to X; or no the face doesn't belong to X"

This is a small example of a God setting his sovereign will above the will of local components like the face detection Neural Network.

This technology is everywhere even in your mobile phone (open the camera; the Neural Network application will put a green square around your face in some phones).

What recognizes your face is the slave processes loaded with Neural Networks -or humans in my example-. While God is the manufacturer of your mobile phone.

Yes; we can make a choice while obeying a higher law dominating us.
But in our case, that higher law is God that created us and created the real neural networks in our brains.

Then God didn't create everything.  Glad you finally get it.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#52
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 18, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Pre-divorce, my relationship with my ex-wife was very, very far from tranquil. Post- divorce, my life has never been more tranquil.

That you don't know these kind of things makes me think that you are very young, or an incel.

In either case, grow the fuck up.
(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I don't know about your experience, but I expect that you didn't find the right woman.
No such mythical person exists. That you think that is true is how I know you are young.

(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If every woman makes every man happy, then there won't be any problems regarding tranquility in mates.
It's the womans job to make her man happy? That is a repulsive ideology.

(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I might be young, but I know very well that I need to choose my mate like I'm choosing a second body of mine; i.e she must be extremely compatible with me, I expect her to do the same and validate me very carefully.
My ex was compatible at the outset. But people change. So she became more religious and I became more atheist over time. We started from a position of not being particularly committed. Religion caused the problem. People like you. You really are clueless.

At this point, I do not mind discussing interpersonal marriage stuff, because as far as I am concerned, the bitch can go die in a fire. Both of my kids are now atheist of their own volition. The eldest (now an adult) will be appointed shortly as executor of my will.

(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Better than getting involved, having kids, then cut them and scar them for life between fighting parents who aren't compatible.
Except I know from experience that this is a load. My kids have keys to my home and are rounded individuals. So I know you are young. You are clueless how the real world works.
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#53
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Can't imagine why you haven't found Ms. Right yet Winter. Positively baffling.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#54
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 21, 2020 at 8:06 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If every woman makes every man happy, then there won't be any problems regarding tranquility in mates.
It's the womans job to make her man happy? That is a repulsive ideology.
There many points you need to satisfy as a human to be happy, finding the right mate is one of them. But it's an accumulation of points.
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(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I might be young, but I know very well that I need to choose my mate like I'm choosing a second body of mine; i.e she must be extremely compatible with me, I expect her to do the same and validate me very carefully.
My ex was compatible at the outset. But people change. So she became more religious and I became more atheist over time. We started from a position of not being particularly committed. Religion caused the problem. People like you. You really are clueless.

At this point, I do not mind discussing interpersonal marriage stuff, because as far as I am concerned, the bitch can go die in a fire. Both of my kids are now atheist of their own volition. The eldest (now an adult) will be appointed shortly as executor of my will.

You weren't on the same page if you changed your views in the future, you chose different paths and that separates whole nations and whole populations not just you as a couple.

What matters is that all of you choose your own path, I did so when I disobeyed my Sunni family and that's what I plan to teach my kids -if I ever had kids-.

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(October 20, 2020 at 4:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Better than getting involved, having kids, then cut them and scar them for life between fighting parents who aren't compatible.
Except I know from experience that this is a load. My kids have keys to my home and are rounded individuals. So I know you are young. You are clueless how the real world works.

But I have the memory of incompatibility kicking in to my family, and I know exactly what kind of forest the child might live through when their parents are not compatible, they -the children- can lose years trying to figure out who they are -you can expect that I went through that early in my life too-.

(October 21, 2020 at 8:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Can't imagine why you haven't found Ms. Right yet Winter.  Positively baffling.

You never know what is coming for you tomorrow.
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#55
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
I'm confident that it won't be a wife. As I mentioned previously, this is not how wives occur.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#56
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 21, 2020 at 6:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm confident that it won't be a wife.  As I mentioned previously, this is not how wives occur.

I don't mean "tomorrow" as in "tomorrow"; it's a metaphor.
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#57
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 21, 2020 at 6:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm confident that it won't be a wife.  As I mentioned previously, this is not how wives occur.

Bingo lolly. I never imagined that I’d ever be happily married to an unusually tall Arab woman with a penchant for martial arts AND antiques.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#58
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Wife is probably a metaphor in this context too. The only thing that you're going to get by stewing around in the described thoughts is mental illness.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#59
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Know who else had trouble finding a woman? MK. At this point, I'm honestly surprised more Muslim men aren't incels.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 21, 2020 at 6:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: What matters is that all of you choose your own path, I did so when I disobeyed my Sunni family and that's what I plan to teach my kids -if I ever had kids-.

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