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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 16, 2020 at 12:14 pm
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(October 16, 2020 at 9:25 am)Angrboda Wrote: Klorophyll, what qualifies you to speak authoritatively as opposed to Muslims who view these things differently?
No Muslim can justify "viewing" these things differently. What I am presenting here is based on straightforward explanations of the sacred Muslim texts. My view coincides with that of mainstream Sunni Islam.
(October 16, 2020 at 11:37 am)Sal Wrote: Well, then it's a good thing I do neither. I guess "I" am bound for 72 white raisins after the cessation of brain activity.
This 72 thing in heaven has no authentic reference in any of the prophet's sayings.
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 16, 2020 at 12:50 pm
I'm still wondering a bit where this evidence is? Is it just the stupid magic book and that's all?
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 17, 2020 at 6:19 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54581827
Quote:The teacher who was beheaded in a street in France had received threats after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to his pupils, French media report.
Nine people have been arrested, including the parents of a child at the school where the teacher was working, judicial sources are quoted as saying.
The attacker was shot dead by police near the scene of Friday's killing.
Police say the attacker was an 18-year-old man of Chechen origin.
The killing took place while a trial is under way in Paris over a 2015 Islamist assault on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, which was targeted for publishing the cartoons.
French President Emmanuel Macron said the attack bore all the hallmarks of an "Islamist terrorist attack" and the teacher had been murdered because he "taught freedom of expression".
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 18, 2020 at 12:39 pm
(October 14, 2020 at 8:03 am)Klorophyll Wrote: Christians and Jews are going to hell according to Islam, by default:
Another laughable assertion one reads frequently, which has a lot to do with the misconception above, when one thinks about it.
So why don't you Muslims in ME become Jews? It would be much easier, there would be no conflicts and no wars. I mean if Jews are not going to hell then convert to Judaism for the sake of peace. Come on, be a jew.
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 18, 2020 at 3:39 pm
(October 17, 2020 at 6:19 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54581827
The teacher who was beheaded in a street in France had received threats after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to his pupils, French media report.
Nine people have been arrested, including the parents of a child at the school where the teacher was working, judicial sources are quoted as saying.
The attacker was shot dead by police near the scene of Friday's killing.
Police say the attacker was an 18-year-old man of Chechen origin.
The killing took place while a trial is under way in Paris over a 2015 Islamist assault on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, which was targeted for publishing the cartoons.
French President Emmanuel Macron said the attack bore all the hallmarks of an "Islamist terrorist attack" and the teacher had been murdered because he "taught freedom of expression".
If a religion can't cope with a few drawings then it shows itself to be very shallow and lacking in confidence in itself
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 18, 2020 at 5:07 pm
(October 14, 2020 at 8:03 am)Klorophyll Wrote: The Satanic Verses' incident:
Never took place! For God's sake, anyone who isn't well versed in Islamic hadith really should avoid bringing this one up. The authenticity of the narrative recounting this event was refuted by professional Islamic scholars, including al-Albani, a leading figure in Islamic studies during the twentieth century.
Please listen to Islamic scholars and be skeptical when reading some ex-Muslim kid. It's really that simple.
More misconceptions to come very soon.
You mean the incident where muslim clerics ordered the death of Salman Rushdie for writing a book, and he had to flee for his life from zealots like you?
Not a misconception.
And frankly that is all you need to know about islam (and frankly all you would have needed to know about christianity when it wielded the same kind of power).
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 18, 2020 at 5:23 pm
(October 18, 2020 at 5:07 pm)Nomad Wrote: (October 14, 2020 at 8:03 am)Klorophyll Wrote: The Satanic Verses' incident:
Never took place! For God's sake, anyone who isn't well versed in Islamic hadith really should avoid bringing this one up. The authenticity of the narrative recounting this event was refuted by professional Islamic scholars, including al-Albani, a leading figure in Islamic studies during the twentieth century.
Please listen to Islamic scholars and be skeptical when reading some ex-Muslim kid. It's really that simple.
More misconceptions to come very soon.
You mean the incident where muslim clerics ordered the death of Salman Rushdie for writing a book, and he had to flee for his life from zealots like you?
Not a misconception.
And frankly that is all you need to know about islam (and frankly all you would have needed to know about christianity when it wielded the same kind of power).
The actual text of the fatwa reads...
"We are from Allah and to Allah we shall return. I am informing all brave Muslims of the world that the author of The Satanic Verses, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, the Prophet of Islam, and the Qur'an, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to death. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to kill them without delay, so that no one will dare insult the sacred beliefs of Muslims henceforth. And whoever is killed in this cause will be a martyr, Allah Willing. Meanwhile if someone has access to the author of the book but is incapable of carrying out the execution, he should inform the people so that [Rushdie] is punished for his actions."
Nice religion of peace.
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 18, 2020 at 6:04 pm
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(October 18, 2020 at 5:07 pm)Nomad Wrote: (October 14, 2020 at 8:03 am)Klorophyll Wrote: The Satanic Verses' incident:
Never took place! For God's sake, anyone who isn't well versed in Islamic hadith really should avoid bringing this one up. The authenticity of the narrative recounting this event was refuted by professional Islamic scholars, including al-Albani, a leading figure in Islamic studies during the twentieth century.
Please listen to Islamic scholars and be skeptical when reading some ex-Muslim kid. It's really that simple.
More misconceptions to come very soon.
You mean the incident where muslim clerics ordered the death of Salman Rushdie for writing a book, and he had to flee for his life from zealots like you?
Not a misconception.
And frankly that is all you need to know about islam (and frankly all you would have needed to know about christianity when it wielded the same kind of power). Indeed don't trust your lying eyes
Let it known though i do think Salman Rushdie is a garbage person . He just doesn't deserve to die because of it . If Muslim extremists had not made him a martyr . He would simply be remembered a mediocre clown .
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 21, 2020 at 1:06 pm
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(October 18, 2020 at 5:23 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The actual text of the fatwa reads...
"We are from Allah and to Allah we shall return. I am informing all brave Muslims of the world that the author of The Satanic Verses, a text written, edited, and published against Islam, the Prophet of Islam, and the Qur'an, along with all the editors and publishers aware of its contents, are condemned to death. I call on all valiant Muslims wherever they may be in the world to kill them without delay, so that no one will dare insult the sacred beliefs of Muslims henceforth. And whoever is killed in this cause will be a martyr, Allah Willing. Meanwhile if someone has access to the author of the book but is incapable of carrying out the execution, he should inform the people so that [Rushdie] is punished for his actions."
Nice religion of peace.
Why do you think these Shia fools represent Islam ? I don't think you read anything about the history of Islam to be able to give any nuanced opinion regarding these fatwas.
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RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 21, 2020 at 1:29 pm
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OFC muslims represent islam. Who else would?
Here again you've done the same thing as before, though. Telling us that there was some misapprehnsion about an item..and then clarifying that...no, no misapprehension. It happened.
You're two for three.
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