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FLOTUS Barbie of "I really don't care, do you?" fame made a statement.

Whoopdeedamndoo.

She's a victim in this because people are gossiping about her.  BooHoo.

At least she did mention the dead and offered condolences though I don't find that terribly heartwarming.  

Bimbo Barbie wants us to stop the violence...we're saved.  

(January 8, 2021 at 11:53 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I didn't rape your.goat this week - ain't I fucking grand?

You're better in that regard than anyone who DID fuck his goat. Good for you.

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(January 8, 2021 at 3:03 pm)Spongebob Wrote: Trump has announced (via Twitter) that he will not attend the inauguration of Biden.  Considering the circumstances of this week, I think that's probably a good thing.  It would have been much better for the country, of course, if he had acted like a big boy and conceded weeks ago and congratulated Biden, but that's not the universe we live in.  Hilary even congratulated Trump in 2016 and I'm pretty sure she would have rather eaten a pile of dogshit.

On the other hand, Trump is placing himself out of the way of any violence that may attend the inauguration. Let's hope this time the security is on point.

(January 11, 2021 at 1:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The extent to which the gop has become a party of white supremacy is the extent to which it's expression is no longer welcome in the other party and the extent to which it's fundamental principles as espoused by the base are informed by white supremacist propaganda.

As we go back in time, dems were more and more amenable to white supremacy, and the principles the base espoused more and more dependent on the propaganda of white supremacy.  

Quote:In a recent paper, “Why did the Democrats Lose the South? Bringing New Data to an Old Debate (PDF),” Princeton’s Ilyana Kuziemko and Yale’s Ebonya Washington use this data to argue that nearly all of the Democratic Party’s losses in the South from 1958-1980 can be explained by white voters’ racially conservative views.. They authors find almost no role for income growth among white voters or non-race-related policy preferences in explaining why white Southern voters left the party. Their findings help explain why some of the poorest parts of the country now serve as the base of the political party that is least supportive of redistribution. According to their research, this irony of the modern American political system can be directly linked to the racially conservative ideologies of Southern voters in the 1960s.

Below are some of the main findings and key points from the tudy.

https://economics.princeton.edu/working-...ld-debate/

Long story short (and picking up where it leaves off) it started in the spring of 1963, and would take twenty years for all of the newly reshuffled voters to find their place (if any) in the new paradigm.  By 1980, voters who were coming of political age in 63 would be older and greater positions of authority and with greater ability or tools to disseminate their ideology.  It would take another 20 years to produce the voters of that demographic, and hey presto, whadda you know, right about then some planes hit some buildings.  

From there, we have the humiliation of bush followed by eight years of a black man in the white house.  Trump was, in a very palpable sense, revenge for obama.  Revenge for the indignity of obama.  Revenge for the illegitimacy of obama.  Revenge for the injustice of white victimization and...fwiw...exactly the kind of person you'd expect to be shitty enough to give you what you wanted...if what you wanted was the reinforcement of white supremacy.

That was a good timeline overview and it is valid that the white supremacists didn't appear from nowhere; they moved from the Democratic party to the GOP as the civil rights movement began to be validated by law.  I sometimes wonder if Wallace had been elected, he might have been an earlier version of Trump.

I've actually heard directly from white people that Trump rose to power because of Obama and even though I understand the racist underpinnings of that, I don't see any logic in it.  What did Obama do to white people except get elected?

(January 11, 2021 at 3:33 pm)Spongebob Wrote:

(January 11, 2021 at 1:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The extent to which the gop has become a party of white supremacy is the extent to which it's expression is no longer welcome in the other party and the extent to which it's fundamental principles as espoused by the base are informed by white supremacist propaganda.

As we go back in time, dems were more and more amenable to white supremacy, and the principles the base espoused more and more dependent on the propaganda of white supremacy.  

https://economics.princeton.edu/working-...ld-debate/

Long story short (and picking up where it leaves off) it started in the spring of 1963, and would take twenty years for all of the newly reshuffled voters to find their place (if any) in the new paradigm.  By 1980, voters who were coming of political age in 63 would be older and greater positions of authority and with greater ability or tools to disseminate their ideology.  It would take another 20 years to produce the voters of that demographic, and hey presto, whadda you know, right about then some planes hit some buildings.  

From there, we have the humiliation of bush followed by eight years of a black man in the white house.  Trump was, in a very palpable sense, revenge for obama.  Revenge for the indignity of obama.  Revenge for the illegitimacy of obama.  Revenge for the injustice of white victimization and...fwiw...exactly the kind of person you'd expect to be shitty enough to give you what you wanted...if what you wanted was the reinforcement of white supremacy.

That was a good timeline overview and it is valid that the white supremacists didn't appear from nowhere; they moved from the Democratic party to the GOP as the civil rights movement began to be validated by law.  I sometimes wonder if Wallace had been elected, he might have been an earlier version of Trump.

I've actually heard directly from white people that Trump rose to power because of Obama and even though I understand the racist underpinnings of that, I don't see any logic in it.  What did Obama do to white people except get elected?

That was enough and then some.

Spend some time in the deep south where they don't really hide it and you'll see.  I can't post on here the things thought and said by people I used to live around.

Then you have to realize that it's all over the country...it's just more visible in the south...at least it was until Trump made it okay to loud and proud about being a White Supremacist.  They whispers became shouts when the megaphone was handed to him.

There wasn't silence before.

I had a boss say that he loved his family's maid like his mother but he wouldn't sit down to Sunday dinner with her.  Of course the maid was black.  How do you say those two things in the same sentence without choking on your words?

(January 11, 2021 at 1:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: First Lady Melania Trump: Our Path Forward | The White House

FLOTUS Barbie of "I really don't care, do you?" fame made a statement.

Whoopdeedamndoo.

She's a victim in this because people are gossiping about her.  BooHoo.

At least she did mention the dead and offered condolences though I don't find that terribly heartwarming.  

Bimbo Barbie wants us to stop the violence...we're saved.  

I don't want to sympathize with her or anything, but I gotta give her credit: she sounded far more diplomatic and more like a statesman than her husband ever has.  The fact that she didn't tell the terrorists "We love you.  You're very special" automatically makes her better than Donnie.

(January 11, 2021 at 3:47 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(January 11, 2021 at 1:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: First Lady Melania Trump: Our Path Forward | The White House

FLOTUS Barbie of "I really don't care, do you?" fame made a statement.

Whoopdeedamndoo.

She's a victim in this because people are gossiping about her.  BooHoo.

At least she did mention the dead and offered condolences though I don't find that terribly heartwarming.  

Bimbo Barbie wants us to stop the violence...we're saved.  

I don't want to sympathize with her or anything, but I gotta give her credit: she sounded far more diplomatic and more like a statesman than her husband ever has.  The fact that she didn't tell the terrorists "We love you.  You're very special" automatically makes her better than Donnie.

Agreed.

But it's a damn low bar and you can bet she didn't write it.

(January 11, 2021 at 3:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: That was enough and then some.

Spend some time in the deep south where they don't really hide it and you'll see.  I can't post on here the things thought and said by people I used to live around.

Then you have to realize that it's all over the country...it's just more visible in the south...at least it was until Trump made it okay to loud and proud about being a White Supremacist.  They whispers became shouts when the megaphone was handed to him.

There wasn't silence before.

I had a boss say that he loved his family's maid like his mother but he wouldn't sit down to Sunday dinner with her.  Of course the maid was black.  How do you say those two things in the same sentence without choking on your words?

I live in Alabama.  I was born and raised in Mississippi.  And I am white myself (not actually yellow with holes).  So I've been around racist people all my life, although the vast majority of them will argue they are not racists at all.  They make all sorts of tangled arguments justifying themselves, but in reality it's just about race.  I suppose they don't have the capacity to understand that when more people vote for a candidate, that candidate gets elected (speaking about Obama here), whether they like it or not.

In contrast, I know black people who were quite disappointed with Obama because he didn't do enough to improve the lives of black people.

(January 11, 2021 at 3:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(January 11, 2021 at 3:47 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I don't want to sympathize with her or anything, but I gotta give her credit: she sounded far more diplomatic and more like a statesman than her husband ever has.  The fact that she didn't tell the terrorists "We love you.  You're very special" automatically makes her better than Donnie.

Agreed.

But it's a damn low bar and you can bet she didn't write it.

1)  No, I don't expect she wrote it.  Still, it's better than anything Donnie would read out loud, whether he wrote it or not.

2)  Low bar, sure, but usually, when it comes to the Trump administration, they just look for the lowest bar they can find and limbo right the fuck under it.  This is one of the first times that hasn't happened.  Maybe Melania should have been on the Trump cabinet?

(January 11, 2021 at 3:47 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(January 11, 2021 at 1:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: First Lady Melania Trump: Our Path Forward | The White House

FLOTUS Barbie of "I really don't care, do you?" fame made a statement.

Whoopdeedamndoo.

She's a victim in this because people are gossiping about her.  BooHoo.

At least she did mention the dead and offered condolences though I don't find that terribly heartwarming.  

Bimbo Barbie wants us to stop the violence...we're saved.  

I don't want to sympathize with her or anything, but I gotta give her credit: she sounded far more diplomatic and more like a statesman than her husband ever has.  The fact that she didn't tell the terrorists "We love you.  You're very special" automatically makes her better than Donnie.

You are far more generous than I am. I think it was a hypocritical half assed measure that is a direct affront to her "anti bullying" mantra when she is married to one. And a bully who made his own VP a target for murder. If she truly meant it she would have divorced that sicko long ago.

(January 11, 2021 at 3:52 pm)Spongebob Wrote:

(January 11, 2021 at 3:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: That was enough and then some.

Spend some time in the deep south where they don't really hide it and you'll see.  I can't post on here the things thought and said by people I used to live around.

Then you have to realize that it's all over the country...it's just more visible in the south...at least it was until Trump made it okay to loud and proud about being a White Supremacist.  They whispers became shouts when the megaphone was handed to him.

There wasn't silence before.

I had a boss say that he loved his family's maid like his mother but he wouldn't sit down to Sunday dinner with her.  Of course the maid was black.  How do you say those two things in the same sentence without choking on your words?

I live in Alabama.  I was born and raised in Mississippi.  And I am white myself (not actually yellow with holes).  So I've been around racist people all my life, although the vast majority of them will argue they are not racists at all.  They make all sorts of tangled arguments justifying themselves, but in reality it's just about race.  I suppose they don't have the capacity to understand that when more people vote for a candidate, that candidate gets elected (speaking about Obama here), whether they like it or not.

In contrast, I know black people who were quite disappointed with Obama because he didn't do enough to improve the lives of black people.

I noted when I was in the military, especially training, not only one race against another race racism but, and I don't know how to put it gently...girls I trained with who were viewed with hostility for not being "black enough" by the other black girls.  It was eye-opening for me to come from a place of 99% white people to people of every color and from all over the place and to witness the things people used to separate themselves with.