A jury does not have to be in unanimous consent for sedition to be sedition. They have to be in consent to convict for sedition. Yet another article of your beliefs. I suspect that there will be sympathizers like yourself on the jury - and that defense will play to your shared fantasies, also.

Sedition, OLB. You're allowed to say it, that's what it was. It may be that our politics or our system of justice are so hopelessly corrupt or inept that we fail to hold domestic terrorists accountable...but this is all that you're arguing. That won't change the nature of what they did - it's just a statement of what you're willing to accept them having done.

Quote:Jesus are you fucking dense......


Just because some drone from the DOJ SAYS something doesn't make it a fucking fact that you can glom onto and expect to be reality.


They can prosecute alleging it's sedition - but a jury has to be unanimous in agreement with that allegation.


Guarantee the defense will use the arguenent I set forward and probably a few nobody here has thought of...

If the jury doesn't convict - and it only takes one to vote aquittal - you don't have sedition......


But I'm sure you will keep barking it...

Translation if reality fit my narrative . It's wrong.

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(January 14, 2021 at 1:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: A jury does not have to be in unanimous consent for sedition to be sedition.  They have to be in consent to convict for sedition.  Yet another article of your beliefs.  I suspect that there will be sympathizers like yourself on the jury - and that defense will play to your shared fantasies, also.

But Grand OLB is the greatest legal scholar ever. Fuck what all those lawyers and lawmakers have to say? What do those morons know about what is and isn't the legal definition of words? OLB opinion trumps them all

Oh and if anyone needs the word defined this article does a good job (spoilers OLB definition is bullshit )

https://buffalonews.com/news/national/in...028bd.html

(January 14, 2021 at 1:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 14, 2021 at 11:06 am)Spongebob Wrote: He's demonstrating a shocking lack of knowledge and understanding of the Constitution.  It doesn't guarantee anyone the right to take a gun anywhere they want.  Or it's just more Trump-style lies.

Nothing to do with the Constitution. While the SC have repeatedly affirmed that owning firearms is a constitutional right, the actual details of how that right is implemented are (largely) left up to the States. In this case, if the Nebraska courts and legislature have decided that it’s legal to carry firearms inside the state capitol, that’s how the Constitutional right works in Nebraska.

Boru

That's precisely why I said the Constitution doesn't guarantee anyone the right to take a gun anywhere they want, there are laws that limit this right.  But of course it is related to the Constitution.  Any law, whether local, state or federal cannot override Constitutional rights.  This is why the NRA has such a hard time with it.  They believe the 2nd Amendment is absolute and all laws curtailing the ownership or use of guns is unconstitutional.

honestly, not that i know every on in the trump movement, but not one person i know has planned or is planning on marching on the state capitols. In fact there is a movement( after how the suckers who were invited into the senate building were used by the media) to stay away from our state capitols. they used us. one to burn trump.. the idea here is not to let them use us again. Two to attack the movement and label us in the media. So if anyone is to show, they are going to have to bus antifa types of people in dress in trump gear. not only that IDK if the fake news is airing trumps message to us, but he explicitly said don't go.. that if you do go it is not on his behalf nor for the movement that infact if you show up you will be hurting him and the movement. so again, i dont know anyone who will show up in protest of anything except paid actors. or people so disconnected to reality by the news media who simply do not know any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDNiNdsPHNA

In a trial by jury, the verdict has to be unanimous either way or a hung jury is declared, which leaves the prosecutor open to try the case again with a new jury.  A hung jury is NOT the same thing as acquittal.  In the case of these rioters being tried for a range of different crimes, they will be offered various plea deals that would avoid a jury trial and possibly convictions of serious crimes.  Some people will accept and others will push it to trial, where their punishment will be far more severe.  I expect the vast majority to accept plea deals and avoid the stigma of convicted felon hanging over them for the rest of their life.  However, it would be pretty fun seeing most of the jackasses go to prisons that they regularly claim life is sweet and you get all the great food you want and free room and board.  I'd like to hear how they like it after 6 months.  

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BTW, I've been called for jury duty 3 times and in all but one I was not picked to even get to the courtroom. However, the last time I got as far as the final couple dozen people. On the final day of jury selection, the accused was brought to the courtroom where he could see all of us sitting there, waiting to be selected or dismissed. He changed his plea to guilty and took a deal. The judge said this happens a lot. When the accused gets a look at the faces that will judge him, it often makes them change their mind and take the deal. It also helps that DAs have a habit of piling on charges that seem repetitive, so you could get charged with 5 or 6 different things like trespassing and unlawful entry when really you just stole a bike off of someone's front lawn. It makes the penalty go way up and scares the shit out of most people. 20 years for stealing a bike! What?

Sure Drich, it was the media, that's the ticket.

Which media, though? Same one that had you peddling qanon horseshit and reaching for your crystal ball the last few weeks? I'm not surprised that no one you know is planning an attack. You don't strike me as the type I'd want to loop in on a conspiracy to commit treason.

You are, however, currently disseminating white supremacist propaganda. Obviously down to fuck on that one, huh?

(January 14, 2021 at 3:33 pm)Drich Wrote: honestly, not that i know every on in the trump movement, but not one person i know has planned or is planning on marching on the state capitols. In fact there is a movement( after how the suckers who were invited into the senate building were used by the media) to stay away from our state capitols. they used us. one to burn trump.. the idea here is not to let them use us again. Two to attack the movement and label us in the media. So if anyone is to show, they are going to have to bus antifa types of people in dress in trump gear. not only that IDK if the fake news is airing trumps message to us, but he explicitly said don't go.. that if you do go it is not on his behalf nor for the movement that infact if you show up you will be hurting him and the movement. so again, i dont know anyone who will show up in protest of anything except paid actors. or people so disconnected to reality by the news media who simply do not know any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDNiNdsPHNA

It's hilarious that you are accusing other people of being disconnected to reality.  Hey kettle, have you met the pot?

Quote:honestly, not that i know every on in the trump movement, but not one person i know has planned or is planning on marching on the state capitols. In fact there is a movement( after how the suckers who were invited into the senate building were used by the media) to stay away from our state capitols. they used us. one to burn trump.. the idea here is not to let them use us again. Two to attack the movement and label us in the media. So if anyone is to show, they are going to have to bus antifa types of people in dress in trump gear. not only that IDK if the fake news is airing trumps message to us, but he explicitly said don't go.. that if you do go it is not on his behalf nor for the movement that infact if you show up you will be hurting him and the movement. so again, i dont know anyone who will show up in protest of anything except paid actors. or people so disconnected to reality by the news media who simply do not know any better.

And delusional nonsense 

By the way, How's that search for the server in Germany coming along? 

Quote:So if anyone is to show, they are going to have to bus antifa types of people in dress in trump gear. not only that IDK if the fake news .....

A propos fake news:

Will the dominion servers seized in Frnakfurt be in those buses too? Who knows. You better have a look.

"Conspiracy to commit insurrection."

18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
From Title 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES

They've crossed the line. Their rite to free speech won't keep them out of jail.