(March 27, 2021 at 9:49 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: ==Yes, I agree.  

Attenborough is a TV personality who makes animal documentaries. Like other science popularizers, he is happy to repeat myths about subjects he doesn't know about.

If you can find a scholarly source that agrees with what he says here, I'll be very interested to see it. Three seconds in a pop documentary is insufficient. Please don't accept sources just because they agree with your prejudices. 

Quote:I would say that most likely that the majority of the people were Bible literalists, up until the 19 th century.

You keep repeating this. I'm looking for some kind of scholarly, historical source. 

Quote:The science of the 19 th century gave scientists clues as to the age of the Earth but I doubt that this spread in every school, from elementary and up in the 19 th century.

There were clues to the age of the earth long before that, too. Are you aware of these? 

Quote:It’s probably after nuclear weapons were developed that the general public took notice of what a physicist does.

Is there some evidence or reason to believe this, or is another thing you've made up because it sounds right? 

I urge you to read something by someone who has studied the field. Making shit up is not a reliable source for facts.

(March 27, 2021 at 10:19 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Is that an allegory or a metaphor? Explain to me the meaning behind it?

This is why people study hermeneutics. 

Quote:From what I see, they are describing people who are real for them. It talks about the lives of the named people, who their sons are and what they do.

What reasons do you have to reach this conclusion? Have you decided that the many many Christians who disagree with you are mistaken? For what reason?

(March 27, 2021 at 10:23 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 10:19 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Is that an allegory or a metaphor? Explain to me the meaning behind it?

This is why people study hermeneutics. 

Quote:From what I see, they are describing people who are real for them. It talks about the lives of the named people, who their sons are and what they do.

What reasons do you have to reach this conclusion? Have you decided that the many many Christians who disagree with you are mistaken? For what reason?

“This is why people study hermeneutics.”

==When you studied hermeneutics, what did you discover the meaning of the age of Adam meant? Same question, for the other ages of the people as mentioned in the Bible.

“What reasons do you have to reach this conclusion? Have you decided that the many many Christians who disagree with you are mistaken? For what reason?”

==I’m not exactly certain that I understand what you are on about to be honest.
What I am mistaken about? The christians are disagreeing with me about what exactly?

--Ferrocyanide

(March 27, 2021 at 10:50 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: ==I’m not exactly certain that I understand what you are on about to be honest.
What I am mistaken about? The christians are disagreeing with me about what exactly?

--Ferrocyanide

You continue to offer confident interpretations of Bible stories. In this case, you pronounced that the Genesis characters who live a long time are written of as real people. You continue with your unsupported assertion that these are meant to be literally true stories.

Do you draw this conclusion from any sort of reasoning? Or is it just a whim that you have? 

Lots of Christians don't think the Bible stories you refer to are meant as accurate history. Your interpretation disagrees with them. Why do you think they are wrong? What is it about their reasoning which is unpersuasive to you? 

Do you think that the opinions we offer should be supported by historical facts and scholarly sources? Or do you think it's enough to just make it up?

(March 27, 2021 at 9:49 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Your video, why don’t you send it to Belacqua? He seems to disagree with these statements and keeps talking about Augustine.

I did but he's delusional and thinks that nobody except him and the blog he follows checked the facts of history and that everyone is wrong except him and the blog he follows.

Here's for instance the Bishop of Oxford saying that the Church, and everyone else, took the Bible literally as a science book until the 19th century.